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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    Luke 14:14 This is a statement of fact; no more and no less. And since it is the word of God, it is a TRUE fact. But what is the intent of the speaker? Will your reward be given the instant your are caught up into the air? I don't think that is the intent here. The meaning is, the saints will...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    It is not speculation, or presumption: it is the meaning of the English word. When a field of barley was getting ripe, the Jews were instruction to find the first few heads of grain that ripened first and offer them to God as "firstfruits." You seem to imagine then that that would finish the...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    Since John tells us there are only TWO, then Jesus' resurrection has to be included in one or the earth. And since His was the firstfruits: in fact, Paul ties Jesus' resurrection to ours: 1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    It is a truth, Greek words, just like English words, can have more than one meaning - especially a compound English word.
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    193 pages of posts, and I doubt anyone has budged an inch from what they believe.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    I agree in part, but I also believe, if someone is believing they will see the Antichrist Beast, God will honor their faith and they WILL see him. I can't figure out why some believe this, but I have met many who do. I choose God's escape plan.
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    So scared

    Have you fear. I know of someone who had an accident and went to heaven, but got prayed back to his body. While he was in heaven, walking along the River of Life, he met his three old dogs. They spoke to him and he answered - but he said, don't ask me how they spoke and I answered: I don't know...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    It IS in perfect chronological order (when one recognizes the parentheses and intermissions) and the fact that the marriage is after wrath is scripture. Most pretribbers only follow their pastors anyway, else they would KNOW the rapture was not in Rev. 4:1. WHY did John see the marriage and...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    I couldn't agree more! Good job.
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    No, I was speaking of the church age or the age of Grace. Some don't like these titles.
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    That is fine, but for those still struggling with 2 thes. 2, please exegete it for the rest. Please explain how the man of sin is revealed in 3b, in light of verses 6-8. Please explain who the restrainer is in light of Paul writing "and now you know..." Please explain the parallelism. Finally...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    There is no such thing as 'the Church Age' - this is a man-made doctrine of error Hmm. Do you deny the trinity because "trinity" is not found? Do you deny the rapture because "rapture" is not found? Did you not read? 17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Do you know why my understanding always MATCHES? Because it is the truth, not some jibberish logic I learned from other men, but rather that which I allowed to Holy Spirit to teach me by EMPTYIMG MYSELF before the Lord God and saying simply TEACH ME, Lord. If we really believed all this, we...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    That is very basic because before those alive are caught up, those who are dead will be resurrected. However, the way you wrote "THE resurrection" makes it seem like there will be only one moment in time where someone or a group is resurrected. Where you miss it: JESUS was resurrected. When...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    We can be quite sure Jesus did not tell Paul in a vision to write because it would become part of the New Testament that would then be added to the Old Testament. Paul probably had NO IDEA His writing would become part of the written word of God. However, it did and is now a part of scripture -...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    I would reword that: there is only one TITLE for the resurrections of the righteous: Jesus was the first and his resurrection was called the firstfruits. That very name proves a secondfruit, thirdfruit, etc. And the second wave of this primary or chief resurrection (the resurrection of the...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    If you insist I use "tense" with an Aorist verb, then I will say it is tenseless. You are simply not reading the 2 Thes 2 passage correctly. Here is how the first several people translated verse 3 in English before people got preconceived ideas from the KJV: 1384 Wycliffe N.T. That no man...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    The Greek word translated "is come" is a Greek Aorist verb. The A reverses the meaning. (like our word "atypical:" the a changes the meaning.) It is a verb with NO tense. We cannot tell when from this verb because that information simply is not there. But we CAN tell when from where John wrote...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    John did not SEE the church leaving earth and heading towards heaven, but He did see the just raptured church IN HEAVEN and one of the saints spoke to him. You find this in Rev. chapter 7 as the great crowd too large to number. It is the church seen in heaven. HOW did they get there? Refer to...
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    Do you want to know the truth?

    I think most people read the bible with preconceived glasses on. That is their "filter." They read a passage expecting it to say what they already believe. It is difficult to do otherwise, but not impossible. This is why it is so difficult to get people OUT of a cult. They have been well...