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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    His resurrection was called the firstfruits. 1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. By the very definition of "first" it demands there be a second and others to follow. Jesus was the first human to die and...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    This is a classic case of reading into a verse what is not there: "Paul taught post-trib not pre-trib. He warned against pre-trib when he taught the man of sin had to be revealed before our gathering to Christ. " In His first letter, He taught that the resurrection / catching up would come...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Now I know you really don't study these verses, but just read over them and declare to all that you know. Where you miss it: the signs at the 6th seal are the signs for the coming Day of the Lord. The sun turns black. How in the world would anyone KNOW the sun appears black UNLESS THEY SEE IT...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    You said: "This passage is pointed to Gentile believers." This is adding to God's words - BAD - resist the temptation of the evil one to add to God's words. You don't seem to know the difference between UNDERSTANDING a verse and adding to a verse. I did not add. Where you miss it: you take a...
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    THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb

    This sounds NOTHING like what John wrote in Revelation.
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    THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb

    Let's just follow John in Revelation and go with HIS Chronology. The rapture just before wrath (the 6th seal) then the 70th week starting at the 7th seal, and ending with the 7th vial. The Old Testament saints, which will include the Two Witnesses and those beheaded by the Beast will all arise...
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    Does One Receive the Holy Ghost the Moment they Believe in Jesus?

    Yes, of course someone would "receive" the Holy Spirit - or He would not come "upon" them. He is a perfect Gentleman, so to speak, and would never come upon someone that does not want Him or has no faith in Him.
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    Does One Receive the Holy Ghost the Moment they Believe in Jesus?

    Well, Paul laid hands on the Ephesians when they received. I had hands laid on me when I received. However, I agree, it is not necessary: if anyone has faith to receive by themselves, they certainly can.
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    Does One Receive the Holy Ghost the Moment they Believe in Jesus?

    So are those same instructions NOT for born again believers today? The truth is, they had to wait for the Day of Pentecost, but today believers don't have to wait - any believer can believe Acts 1 and receive the mighty baptism in the Holy Spirit as soon as they are born again.
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    I get it: YOU are allowed to explain verses [meaning change what they really say] , but pretribbers are not allowed. Sorry, but I already knew that is how this works. How can a Greek Aorist verb show something ABOUT to happen? It has no tense or timing included. Anyone can claim John's use of...
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    Do you want to know the truth?

    What I would like to ask is what you mean by "the fullness of salvation." For example, the thief on the cross didn't get much, in the way of "salvation" but I believe he is in heaven now. I think being born again, the spirit man regenerated, is enough to get someone from earth to heaven...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Amazing. Simply amazing. Have you spent time studying Paul's classic rapture passage? Have you read Revelation over several times? Where you miss it (almost in every point): We are approaching the end of this age, so just common sense might tell you that things will be different. WHO is...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Why do you insist on writing MYTH? Sorry, David, but this is MYTH. It shows you don't know where "great tribulation" is in scripture when compared to Paul's rapture. It shows you don't know where Paul's rapture is when compared to the days of great tribulation. I can help: the days of GT...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    "in the word you will have tribulation." We all know this is God's word. However, the days are coming when God will pour out His wrath. HIS promise is, we can escape His wrath. Paul's rapture is God's escape plan: to pull out His kids just before wrath. If you wish to set your own...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Where you miss it: the church has always had "tribulation" but God is going to one day pour out HIS WRATH. Luke 21 tells us of God's escape plan - how to avoid God's wrath. Paul shows us His rapture IS God's escape plan. God is not going to set any appointments for us with His wrath. No...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Pretrib is the truth of scripture. It seems many have preconceived glasses on that block the truth. Don't take my word for it, go back and look: Paul stated that the rapture will come before wrath. If you want to set your OWN appointment with His wrath (which is what posttrib does) I think...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    It has to do with the end of an age and God's wrath. He has promised to deliver us from His wrath. The pretrib rapture is God's escape plan. Anyone who desires to, can ignore His escape plan and stay behind to be "overcome." As we approach the end, it seems more and more people choose this route.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Here we have the very reason why we disagree: you read scripture differently than pretribbers do. Case in point: 4 Now, Israel, hear the decrees and laws I am about to teach you. Follow them so that you may live and may go in and take possession of the land the Lord, the God of your ancestors...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    You bring up a good point: the rapture saves us from God's wrath—but God's wrath begins at the 6th seal with the DAY of His wrath (when He allows Himself to get angry) and then a few days later starts the 70th week with the 7th seal, so the entire 70th week is INSIDE the Day of His wrath. My...
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    Does One Receive the Holy Ghost the Moment they Believe in Jesus?

    I believe "the sinful nature" is the old Spirit man that is put to death at regeneration when one is born again. People sin because we still live in a flesh and blood body that enjoys sin. Our new nature is to follow Jesus by walking in the Spirit.