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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    The truth is, Paul TOLD US, but did it in a cloaked manner, perhaps so if his letter fell into Roman hands they would not understand. It seems he wrote it so only those who had his first letter would understand. Did you notice how the earliest translations did verse 3? 1384 Wycliffe N.T. That...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    In a way he is right: we will be judges for the Jews that are enjoying the Millennial Reign of Christ.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Right: it is only a lot of imagination.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Wrong. the church is the one who takes the gospel to the world as represented by the first seal. And the church is still on earth at the 5th seal, and member after member is picked off and made a martyr. You can be sure of this: the rapture will certainly come before Jesus opens the 6th seal...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Your posts are not worth responding too. You believe what you believe and will have to live with the consequences. We ALL reap what we sow.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    You are going to be SO EMBARRASSED when you find out Jesus comes pretrib and you are left behind. WHY will you be left behind? Simply because you have NO FAITH in His pretrib coming. You won't be "looking" for His coming. How many times must I remind you that John saw the great crowd too large...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    That is a theory, but it does not fit all end times scriptures. By the time Jesus gets on the white horse, after the marriage and supper, all saints will be mounting white horses to come with Him - all with resurrection bodies. By the time of the marriage and supper, the "first resurrection"...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    The body of Christ on earth today is all those who are born again. You speak of separation: what is God to do? He cannot override people's wills. If someone chooses to believe they will see the Antichrist Beast, He, God, will honor that faith and they will not be found worthy to escape what is...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    It is a myth that Paul's rapture is hidden in Rev. 4:1. When John's chronology is understood, the church has been waiting at the 5th seal since the beginning, waiting for that final church age martyr. Most people miss the message of chapters 4 & 5 that set the context of the first seal...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Many people do. But HOW do they answer the questions: HOW did the man of sin get revealed in 3b? WHY did Paul write, "and now you know..." as if He had just told them. Then whatever conclusion one comes to on this passage in his second letter, it must agree with his first letter: rapture before...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Certainly Paul's second letter was to clarify the first and was about the rapture. However, his second letter is probably what Peter was referencing when he said Paul's letters were difficult! Many people read over this passage and miss things: Did you notice that in 3b the man of sin IS...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    You have to read that passage carefully. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    It would be nice to have one of John's originals!
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    My point was, the "great tribulation" written in chapter 7 is NOT "those days" of "great tribulation" Jesus spoke of that will be caused by the Beast and False Prophet. I believe John is referring to general life on earth as a sinner: it is filled with tribulation. I agree, the 70th week is for...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    The seal of the Holy Spirit is inside: in our recreated human spirit. The seal Revelation talks about is for the 144,000 Hebrews who will then be protected through the trumpet judgments. They are next seen in heaven some little time after the midpoint of the future 70th week. John does not tell...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    I doubt if you knew the man.
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Well, He certainly will come as Rev. 19 shows His coming - to Armageddon. But nothing written in Matthew 24 or Revelation would or could prevent His coming 7 years previous (1 Thes. 4 coming) FOR His church. Since He will come WITH His church in Rev. 19, it makes perfect sense that they must...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    he's being shown what will happen after the Rapture. MYTH. In revelation the rapture cannot and will not take place until the final church age martyr (5th seal) is killed. But it has to happen before the 6th seal start of God's wrath. It was not mistake then that John SAW the raptured church...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    Well, you can ATTEMPT to find "every eye will see Him" in His 1 Thes. 4 coming. But I don't think you will succeed. Did you not notice that the context of 1 Thes. 4 is BEFORE Wrath and before the Day of the Lord, while the context of "after the tribulation of those days" is years later? After...
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    A golden key to understand the book of Revelations

    I would only add that He was SHOWN the future in a vision. I doubt if John was transported through time.