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fair enough :)

You keep forgetting to include "Even as many as the lord our God shall call" which includes everyone with a hope of entering in. :) And obviously, that's not a rebuke. just additional truth that supports your point. Love in Jesus, Kelby

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the shortened summary. I personally see water baptism for the remission of sins being by promise rather than by Law. But I understand where you're coming from in terms of the TWO Different programs (as you see it). And I somewhat grasp your position...

That was important enough that I'll repost it for all to consider. (plus it saves me re-writing it for @FreeGrace2 and @SophieT ) Have you ever considered that water baptism is only effective towards remission of sins BECAUSE of the atonement made by the blood of Jesus? That's why water...

Have you ever considered that water baptism is only effective towards remission of sins BECAUSE of the atonement made by the blood of Jesus? That's why water baptism works for the remission of sins. It's not excluding, detracting or distracting from the blood of Jesus. It's RELYING on it...

Not trying to divide the enemy. @FreeGrace2 said "no one says that baptism is for remembrance" as if my comment was not answering a real doctrine. Quoting what you'd said was the simplest way of showing my comment to be a valid response to an existing doctrine (held by the person it was...

I am thankful that you didn't take the "I'm offended by the inference of unbelief" stance. Thank-you for that. It seems you believe that proper "belief" excludes baptism for remission of sins. a.k.a water baptism for remission of sins is something outside of belief, therefore it is...

@oyster67 did. and..

@FreeGrace2 my point being that you want me to read Acts 11 and believe it through the lens of your unbelief of Mark 1:4 and Luke 3:3. The Gospel of Jesus Christ begins with the baptism of repentance for remission of sins preached and practiced by John the baptist. Mark 1:1-4 KJV The...

Acts is the first book where the Holy Ghost is being poured out in fulfilment of the promise made in Joel, and in the way described by Jesus as "Ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence". So it's good that you are able to acknowledge places where people are receiving the...

I praise God that He established the purpose of water baptism (remission of sins) before the Holy Ghost was even available for TWO reasons (at least): 1. Because it cannot be claimed that "Baptism is for remembrance" when the things that are supposedly being remembered aren't even available...

Not sure I grasped your meaning or overall intent. Would you condense to a single sentence or two? Thanks. I did read some on the links you provided. Love in Jesus, Kelby

@SophieT oops, that first quote of yours (on my post#98) was something left over from earlier when I was going to answer it.

Just sharing what seemed appropriate to share. If you feel it is off topic, then we'll get back on topic. You say baptism does not wash away sins. Two questions about that: 1. What does remission of sins mean? 2. What verse(s) would you like me to read? (regarding the washing away of sins...

@FreeGrace2 I should point out that YOU said 'they were SAVED and received the Holy Spirit." The bible doesn't say "saved" there. You added to the word of God by saying that. Love in Jesus, Kelby

Regarding baptism for Cornelius' group... I think you missed my point. I wasn't trying to suggest it was somehow needing to be tied into the same moment. I was saying it still needed to be done because of the purpose of water baptism (remission of sins) and the associated repentance. Love...

Do you want me to call you out on this and prove that I'm not speaking in error regarding what you have? Just remember, some may have overlooked it the first time but they're not likely to miss it the second time. You'd suggested that you tend to have more in common with those who operate in...

It is a part of salvation (just like fins were part of the requirements for an aquatic creature to be considered clean for eating under the OT requirement for fins AND scales). If you only have a part of the requirements, you are in danger of finding yourself in similar situation to the man in...

Of course. That's why Peter immediately commanded them to be water baptized. If you have received the Holy Spirit (truly received it, not just claim to have received it) then you ALREADY have an outward witness/sign that says "You're one of God's children" so there's no need for baptism in...

Hi. didn't expect to see this reply so soon. I do go to church and love my pastor. I just go to God more than him because God never fails, never lies, is not influenced by the flesh (except towards mercy, etc), is way more compassionate, and still speaks to his children. Love in Jesus, Kelby