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The reason I asked is that I see more than one. Jesus had to die on the cross. That happened at one point. Jesus had to rise from the grave. That happened at a different point. The apostles had to believe. That happened at yet another point. Jesus had to depart (ascend) to his father...

Even though we're not supposed to, we all do it to some extent. I'm not making excuse for it. I just want you to be thankful (and not get offended, or defensive of your assumption) if someone points one out. "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man:..." 1 Corinthians...

My stance on baptism is similar to Wansvic's in that baptism is necessary because it's purpose is remission of sins (a necessary aspect of salvation). I just couldn't think of any verses that state the particular purpose you suggested. Love in Jesus, Kelby

Thanks for the like on the other page. My stance on baptism is similar to Wansvic's (just being transparent there) but not for the reason Rebel77 was suggesting. May I ask a second honest question? <--that one was the first, lol :) Are you open to consider that Salvation has more than one...

Would you provide a scripture to support this? Love in Jesus, Kelby

Gotta love your spunk! :) I'm not against what you're saying because some things are not in the bible no matter how universally they are taught and accepted. Mainly I"m just hoping that you are able to keep that "throw out anything not written in scripture" attitude when someone points out...

Out of curiosity concerning your position, What IS the name of the Son? Love in Jesus, Kelby

"Step by Step" just means we ought to look at the issue cautiously, watching for the point where a conclusion is reached that is NOT actually stated. I picked the case of Eve as a first subject because it's a good example of "details matter" and more people have heard of this mistake over...

By looking at the artwork I didn't think I'd like this one but I really do. Thanks for posting it. Love in Jesus, Kelby

Read as if God is looking over your shoulder to see what interests you. When you come to something you don't understand, take a moment to ask "God, what does this mean?" or "Does this really mean what it sounds like it means?", or "Will you do that for me, too?" etc. As for where... I agree...

I won't argue against what you posted. But I will point you back to the original question. If you claim that to be the filter we should be using for THIS task, Are you able to use it to discern who in your church DOES have the Holy Ghost, and who does NOT? I propose that a filter that cannot...

Nehemiah6, Would you be willing to have a conversation in email rather than in open forum? I have a question to ask regarding your stance on this particular scripture, and a complimentary thing to say about you in general. My hope was to discuss those two things in a private message, but it...

I stand corrected that it is baptized WITH the Holy Ghost rather than IN. An honest "Thanks" for pointing that out. I don't have a problem with the first two numbered points, but if you consider the following statement to be true (which I DO): Then your assumption at the end of Point #3 ought...

Basically what I mean is along the lines of "Do you have all that is necessary?" I agree that the thief went to heaven (without even hearing the New Testament gospel before he died). And you're not far from what I was getting at with your mention of being baptized in the Holy Spirit / Holy...

@SophieT , Now I have a question for you. You asked that I explain what is meant by "baptism is the mechanism for remission of sins". And I did that by posting the verses clearly stating that baptism is for remission of sins . I even went so far as to explain why that was such a BIG deal...

I always like the next verse (Romans 2:1 because that was Romans 1, not 8... but don't let that distract us from the next verse...) "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest...

Yes, that is the first filter I am suggesting people learn how to test. If we think we cannot (and therefore do not) know if our pastor has the Holy Spirit, then we need to ask God to teach us indeed! And I don't think people should beat themselves up if they realize they do not know or...

Well said! And if we don't think WE are susceptible to that kind of thinking, we only need to ask "When is the last time I looked at the scriptures in a manner that is NOT consistent with what my CHURCH teaches?" Oddly enough, there is one phrase that really stuck with me from my childhood...

I know not many talk as if what I say is truth, but can you produce any scriptures that say we cannot know? I know of several that point to the need for such knowledge, and examples showing that it is indeed possible to discern the moment when someone receives the Holy Ghost and also that it is...

I realize that I have filters through which I still see the word inaccurately. I've known that for years and it still surprises me when God opens something that was written all along yet I was unable to see it because of my filters. I started this thread with the intention of opening other...