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1 Thess 4:16~~ For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 1 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our...

Matt 23~~ 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the...

2 Timothy 2:17–18 17 and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some.

Agreed. This will happen upon His return........ Zech 12:10~~ And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only...

I don't have a personal outline on my studies. TheDivineWaterMark is virtually verbatim from what I have concluded.......He is well advanced compared to me though!

Cameron143 said: Okay. So what event is so imminent and catastrophic that deals with Israel after 70 AD? Even others here who believe as you do on many things admit that 70 AD is partially in view. And, what is God's purpose in writing Revelation? ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The rapture is imminent. And the...

The revelation shows us what must take place AFTER the rapture. It will be the guide for people and Israel going through the Great tribulation.

I did not say The revelation was about the rapture. How did you get that idea?

It is not a stretch considering His Grace and patience. This is Paul"s perspective of the Church at Ephesus. Right before 70AD. Eph 1:15~~For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints, And John writes: Rev 2~~ 4 But...

Paul was teaching the rapture to gentile churches 2000 miles away from Jerusalem. John missed the rapture. And apparently other saved new testament writers. It's getting to be quite the ssttttrrreeeetttcccchhh for me.

That's funny. In other words," I don't care if the truth hits me between the eyes, I ain't changing my mind!" ~~~~~ Irenaeus Irenaeus (A.D. 180), a student of Polycarp (who was a disciple of the apostle John), wrote that the apocalyptic vision “was seen not very long ago, almost in our own...

The rapture can happen anytime. After the rapture, the Trib(Jacobs trouble) starts. Revelation is Israels guide through the worst thing the world has ever seen. ..........Makes Noah's flood look like a spring shower. You have "soon" or "near" in the Revelation as a "short rope." And take it as...

The rapture is imminent. And the purpose of The Revelation is...... Revelation 1:1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John, This is not about...

Irenaeus Irenaeus (A.D. 180), a student of Polycarp (who was a disciple of the apostle John), wrote that the apocalyptic vision “was seen not very long ago, almost in our own generation, at the close of the reign of Domitian” (Against Heresies 30). The testimony of Irenaeus, not far removed from...

But Israel isn't. Except for Israel.

Get your panties out of a bunch. Technically, you are correct. I am talking about boots on the ground reformed theology today. I was in reformed churches for 10 plus years. I heard, The book of James and "they were not really saved" 1000's of times.

This is completely false. I underlined mine, so I am right.

All the Gospels were written around 70AD up to 100AD.......And not a mention of all these OTHER WORLDLY experiences? And they wrote,"(let the READER understand)." So as to be prepared for what was to come. Why would they want the reader to be prepared for what was to come, after they had...

Agreed! And to simplify it a bit: Armin and Calvinism believe the same thing, they just word it differently. Calv~~If you don't produce works/fruit/stuff you will lose the salvation you THOUGHT you had.....you were not really saved. Arm~~ if you don't produce works/fruits/stuff you will lose...

Like I said. No one is denying that the Kingdom of God is in Us. What is being denied is His literal Kingdom. And IMO, it's about as obvious as Canada being north of the United states of America. Canada is physically there, It's not a "spiritual Canada." Matt 26:29~~ But I say to you, I will...