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  1. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Fredo said: Yep, it is acommand to love one another that the passage to mean to Peter and his disciples who had already experienced the loved of Christ. Actually, john 13 is before the cross and nothing is said about loving another "to keep to abide in his love". It addresses, showing that they...
  2. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Umm, see what the scripture says and what fredo see's: Remain in his love, remain in my love, remain in the Father's love. You said: "The command is love one another", quite a bit far from what the scripture is saying. Simple. John 15:9-10 King James Version (KJV) 9 As the Father hath loved...
  3. fredoheaven

    Lets build a fire!

    This is where ppl challenge your belief saying "...NO SUCH THING AS OSAS.!" and when you have been pinned down by the scripture you are unwilling to discuss. We all given here the liberty to express our belief but be also ready to defend your faith. And when you have been shown in the light of...
  4. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    John 15 = the objective is to remain in Christ to remain in his love that would not talk about John 13 is towards fellow believers. 1John 3 = It is because we love the brethren shows we have passed from death to life. Loving the brethren is such an evidence or proof of having been justified by...
  5. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Yep, it is acommand to love one another that the passage to mean to Peter and his disciples who had already experienced the loved of Christ. Actually, john 13 is before the cross and nothing is said about loving another "to keep to abide in his love". It addresses, showing that they are ought to...
  6. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    If charity is love in action, then it is God that loves you first. How can one love someone or others if they don't have the love of God. Romans 5:8 King James Version (KJV) 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
  7. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Yea noose, I believe on Charity...believeth all things. Do you believe in the love of God? that he gave his only begotten Son that whoseover beleiveth on him should not perish but have everlasting life? If you believe this your faith acts. Trust him and rely on him completely that what he has...
  8. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Love One Another (John 13:31-35; Romans 12:9-13) 11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 12Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's...
  9. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    His words also is eternal. Hellfire is also eternal. Also there is a sin not unto death... 1 John 5:17 King James Version (KJV) 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
  10. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    I agree, true believers strives to obey the calling of God after they are saved. We pressed on... Philippians 3:14 King James Version (KJV) 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
  11. fredoheaven

    sabbath

    Simply because the sabbath is intended for the Jews. It is a sign for Israel. This covenant is throughout their generations. In the New Testament, Jesus breaks the sabbath law, thus started a new generation base on faith. His death, burial and resurrection is the basis of the New Testament...
  12. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    While I see nothing wrong with this, few technicalities would may help. that our soul is saved, our spirit is born again and bodies will glorified during the resurrection. Praise God! Jesus Saves and keeps until the end or until he receives us. God bless
  13. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Yep if someone wants to loose his/her salvation then one needs to change the definition of eternal. The promise look of salvation is for eternity. Unbelief or doubting God's word as the Israelite's did were perished and have not entered the promised land. So, anyone who do not place their faith...
  14. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Well, then you are wrong about what OSAS really is or the eternal security (ES) is all about. You are trying to make me believe that we do no good works for the glory of God and your belief on OSAS or ES is base on hearsay. Seems to me that there's a lot of misunderstood teaching of what true...
  15. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    I ask if you may. If God has already given you the gift are you willing to throw that away?
  16. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Hi DeighAn, If you have been truly SAVED by the grace of God, redeemed by the precious BLOOD of Christ then you are saved for eternity and I can say amen for that! Why for eternity? Because the blood of Christ shed on Calvary is for eternity even in the futuristic events in the Book of...
  17. fredoheaven

    Not By Works

    Umm, so you think you are doing well and OSAS believers are not? Most of the scripture you use can be a greatest tool against NOSAS. Actually the passage talks about the redemption on precious blood of Christ. Paid in Full! Of course we are saved to serve. Walk our talk but to those who oppose...
  18. fredoheaven

    Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.

    Actually to unloose from the hands of God is to convince the Father to fail in his commitment. Yet can anyone is able to unloose from him? Yea God is able to keep... In 2 Tim 2:12, Paul says: For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have...
  19. fredoheaven

    Once saved always saved? Or is salvation conditional on believing and following God's Word?

    The faith pertains to life and the supplements pertain to godliness so that there is really no problem. The problem is you try to insert Acts 2:38 here which is to wrest the scriptures...
  20. fredoheaven

    Once saved always saved? Or is salvation conditional on believing and following God's Word?

    No falling away in the passage, no departing from the faith. You are really removing the ancient landmark my friend...