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  1. fredoheaven

    PREVENIENT GRACE: AN ARMINIAN ERROR

    1 Cor. 12:9 might be a good verse in support of "gifting by faith", being one of the many gifts of the Holy Spirit, however, those spiritual gifts in 1 Cor. 12 are given after our salvation and are not in reference to before salvation.
  2. fredoheaven

    The natural man

    Not even the passage you have qouted relates to the believing the gospel of Christ.
  3. fredoheaven

    The natural man

    Maybe I have to retype...
  4. fredoheaven

    The natural man

    What lacks here is the belief of the Gospel that does the saving. The endless error you are fighting for is "regeneration" which is the giving of life again or from re=again, gene
  5. fredoheaven

    Is Faith an exclusive gift 🎁

    I hold to the "gift of salvation" not '"gift of faith" as mentioned in Ephesians 2:8 base on it's context. It talks about salvation not faith though faith is how a sinner received God's righteousness. Hebrews 2 speaks about the theme of getting patient of running the race and doesn't talked...
  6. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Thanks and wirh respect, but I see it differently in this way as said that the phrase "from the foundation of the world" may differs from "before the foundation of the world." So when it comes to salvation, we are saved "from the foundation of the world" as in time (not eternity"), similarly...
  7. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    I bet, there is a difference between "from the foundation of the world" and "before the foundation of the world". The latter means eternity and no one existed unless in his own thinking he is but that would led to the belief of gods and goddesses probably founded on a gnostic belief and rooted...
  8. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Seems to me it could not be 'chosen with Christ' before the world began. Possible is 'chosen because of Christ', yet the actual redemptive act of Christ' is not yet done though, I believe it is foreseen or foreknown and this will bring it to pass in the fullness of time, but this is only my...
  9. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Umm, the Greek, well, accepted in the beloved, redemption through his blood, by grace through faith, the riches of grace, are not these highlight s the method or his will of saving? Thanks
  10. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Thanks. You said foreknowledge differs and what the Bible says it's about God's choosing. We'll need more of your exposition. Thanks
  11. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Thanks and that is God's nature being omniscient
  12. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Thanks for the response. Are you saying the choosing is the same as foreknowledge? That believers have existed before the world was? I believe what God has foreknown is his method that is why 'in him'. To be in him is to trust In him, to have faith in him. By the way, seems v9 which is the...
  13. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    My question here is that, is there anyone of us here existed before the foundation of the world? Seems this endless debate over Eph. 1:4. I ask, which best described who is before the foundation of the world? Does this refer to 'us' or 'him'? Thanks
  14. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Hi Magenta, I will let it pass the Bible Version issue but not to ignore they were used in the KJV interchangeably as in the following: John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet...
  15. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Holy Ghost =Holy Spirit.
  16. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    We are told exactly or precisely to believe 'in him'. Amen!
  17. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    It is found in the scripture of truth. John 17:17 It comes from hearing and hearing the word of God. Romans 10:17 It is personified by Christ John 14:6 The promise of the Spirit of truth will guide us, led us through the scripture of truth John 16:13
  18. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Well, you haven't once again put it in a proper context, and that's what I am always seeing of you. Ephesians 2 centered around "quickening" vv. 1,5 because were dead in trespasses and sins, talking about their time past and by the nature as children of wrath vv 2, . In v.4 talks about 3, the...
  19. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Yes, that this epistle was written to those saints in Ephesus and those faithful in Christ Jesus, yet you disregard the verse 12 that these we", "ye", "us", "our" have first trusted in Christ and that is the point when these Ephesians believers were "in Christ" or when they were saved. Your...
  20. fredoheaven

    When are we saved ?

    Example? Scripture says of firstly of trusting after hearing the word of truth. By denying that first, we deny the scripture about his way of saving. Eph. 1:12-13. Now these passages are either believe or not. The circular response is "the natural man" cannot understand about the things of the...