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  1. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I don't know how you arrived at that. I have never, never used "lack of faith" as a reason for anyone not getting healed. Did you know that John Wesley's horse became lame during one of Wesley's journeys, and the uneven gait of the horse gave him a headache. So he stopped, raised his eyes to...
  2. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I don't really care. If someone gets healed of terminal cancer and his whole unsaved family turns to Christ, along with his uncles, aunts, cousins, neighbors, friends and workmates, then that miracle is definitely a sign to unbelievers!
  3. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The bottom line, and which our fine feathered friend doesn't understand, is that Jesus is the baptizer with the Spirit and the giver of the gifts. When He was in the flesh he demonstrated what Christian ministry was all about. Then he told His disciples that He was to go away to be their...
  4. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I think this is just a play on words and splitting hairs. A miracle in the context of evangelism is a sign that Jesus Christ is really alive today. Most unbelievers don't believe the Bible, so most of the quoting of Scripture to the unsaved is just a waste of time. There is nothing magic in...
  5. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Praying in tongues, casting out demons, and praying for miracles of healing are not limited to the Pentecostal denominations. I know that Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Methodist, Presbyterian, and Baptist churches all have continuist believers who believe that the 1 Corinthians 12 gifts are...
  6. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Using the example of manna is like displaying oranges to try and show that apples don't exist. With the manna, the Scripture clearly says that when the Israelites started growing their own food, the manna stopped. But there are no clear statements in Scripture that the 1 Corinthians 12 gifts...
  7. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    How do you know they are not? Perhaps they don't go around advertising it, or they know that because of your unbelief they don't bother sharing their experiences with you. By the way, who's the "we" here? Maybe it 's just you pretending to be "we".
  8. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    But where to the completed Scriptures tell us that the completed Scriptures are to replace the 1 Corinthian 12 gifts of the Spirit for our churches?
  9. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I agree that it is not happening in your narrow frame of reference. I guess that the people in Jesus' home town didn't see any miracles in their little town, while many miracles were taking place elsewhere. The reason why they didn't see any miracles, and it is the same in your church, is...
  10. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Paul says that the preaching of the Gospel is foolishness to the Greeks. He is talking about philosophers like Aristotle and Plato. According to Aristotle's "reason" the preaching of the Cross and resurrection is foolishness.
  11. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Which shows that you know nothing about real Pentecostals.
  12. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I have read a whole series of booklets containing witness testimonies of miraculous healing from one end of New Zealand to the other through the ministry of a well known healing evangelist. These are testimonies supported by medical evidence that will stand up in court of law. I have a DVD...
  13. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    As was said in a recent post: the miracles reported in the Bible cannot be verified today because all the witnesses died 2000 years ago, and yet most Christians believe they took place. And yet, when modern miracles are attested through medical records and scores of witnesses, cessationists...
  14. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    Why? Google is a good research tool to find that information for yourself if you really want to find out.
  15. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    No. I am saying that you cannot say definitely that they are not happening, because you don't have enough knowledge about what is actually happening around the world. It was like my mother sitting in her lounge and giving her view about something the city council has done. She would say...
  16. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    For interest sake, just let me know this: If the whole of knowledge about what is going on in churches and missions around the world was in the form of a pizza, and your knowledge amounted to a slice of that pizza, how big would that slice be? I would very much doubt that your slice of the...
  17. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    By the way, there is a book called "Surprised By the Power Of The Spirit" by Jack Deere. He was an avowed Cessationist Bible teacher who ended up becoming a continuist. You may not agree with his conclusions, but you might find it interesting to read about his journey from one to another...
  18. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    I have never seen you as the enemy. When I was with Christianforums.com, I had years of debates with two guys, Swordsman1 and Major1 who were avowed Cessationists. I came to enjoy my debates with them, and I missed them when they were absent from a debate, and when they popped up, it was very...
  19. PaulChristensen

    Cessationism vs. continuationism...does it make any difference?

    The strength of these forums is that readers get to see many sides of the same argument instead of just one. The "jury" is the general reader who gets to decide which side of the argument is appropriate for them. I'm never offended by people disagreeing with me. I find the debates...