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I don't know of anyone that does not see that there is the dead In Christ resurrection at the pre-tribulation rapture. That's clearly stated, and it is a no-brainer that only the dead in christ are resurrected. And then of course, there's another resurrection after the millennium. So yes there...

Harvest is 3 parts. Firstfruits Main harvest Gleaners and corners. Firstfruits is Jesus and those resurrected in paradise. Main harvest is those in christ at the Rapture. Corners and gleaners are those left behind and martyred. All of that is the first resurrection. Rev 20 points to the...

Include the pretrib rapture verses. Your entire scenario changes.

Where do people get this idea that the saints are removed from earth along with resurrected saints and float around in the clouds???? God has no purpose????? The only logical next step in that strange scenario is to add Jesus coming on the white horses???? They jump on horses in the sky...

Under this theory you present, acts 1 has Jesus never making heaven when he went up into the clouds? He is still in the clouds? Mat25 has Jesus gathering the church and taking them to heaven and into the marriage chamber. The last supper dialogue has Jesus preparing a place in heaven and...

The saints in heaven, as is stated by Jesus.

Jesus is nonsense??? Matthew 24 has 1 taken in one left behind. Matthew 25 has 5 taken and 5 left behind. That makes 2 testimonies by Jesus himself, that half of that group is left behind and half of it is taken to heaven. That group is the church. The 5 foolish virgins they had oil. Which is...

You are saying they do not go to heaven?

You just made a case from Matthew 24. That before the flood, the rapture happens. That would be pre-tribulation because Jesus HIMSELF tells you so that you don't have to miss it. There's free Commerce, There's marriage, there's betrothal. There's every day life there's normal life and...

Again???? Mat 24, mat 25, acts 1, Rev 19, Rev 14, 1 thes 4, the 2 escape verses, the last supper dialogue, I have posted it's so many times I don't even have to look it up. All those verses against your one verse? You really think your one verse voids 9 verses?

Re read it. He said the days of Noah BEFORE THE FLOOD. THEN one will be taken, the other left. YOU TWISTED IT BIG TIME.

Actually the postribbers not only say it, but mock those that are looking for his coming. All rapture verses are Buying and selling normal life, every day life, commerce, And planning for the future. It is hard to get around the words of Jesus. Pretrib rapture ALONE fits end times doctrine.

Where do those raptured go? If you are postrib rapture adherent, tell me where they go.

I correctly pointed out that there are 3 Conditions in that ps 91 . You did not like that I pointed that out. It is a fact that God put them there. Those conditions are a no brainer. Take it up with Jesus , he is over his word

Quote by homeward bound " sorry you feel convicted" All that does is reinforce your Incorrect judging of myself. Again, no I do not "feel convicted" as you project mess on to me. I am sorry you are not able to put some ridiculous mess on me.

Well, you follow me around leaving little Icons, then hiding. Man up and show me SCRIPTURE conflicting with my views.

Man up and talk. Be specific. Anyone can post put downs and hide.

Prove it. Stop doing drive bys, leaving little icons, then hiding. That would be trolling members.

Uh no, I am not convicted in the least. You are not my judge or anyone to be correcting me OUT OF SOME MAKE BELIEVE DEFICIENCY. Judge me all you want. But judge me TRUTHFULLY. The charges you bring against me are false. Then you go on and on about grace and dynamics of God. I am not here to get...