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    Rapture

    So true!
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    Rapture

    You make a claim. Prove it. I will wait.
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    Rapture

    The only ones gathered preflood were God's people. The prewrath position has the wicked taken BEFORE THE FLOOD. Not even remotely possible. Totally off because Jesus framed the ones taken before the flood. Then when the component of "half taken" is on the table, it really gets impossible. But...
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    Rapture

    Yep Pre Daniel's 70th week. Prewrath included. 7 yr trib, then we come back. Noah illustrates the taking of God's people high into the sky. The trib/wrath/( Daniel's 70th week)/ all happening below them with God's people miles above the earth. Then after the Tribulation, wrath and (Daniel 70...
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    Rapture

    You totally side stepped the analogy. Your analogy NEEDS a PERIOD OF TRIBULATION before Noah LEAVES EARTH. What we have in reality is JESUS WORDS of NORMAL LIFE WITH NOAH. JESUS SAID "commerce, normal life , planning for the future, businesses flourishing, and everyday life." You really think...
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    Rapture

    No What Is dishonest is to OMIT COMPONENTS, and REFEAME what is there. Why are YOU dishonest. By LEAVING OUT COMPONEBTS , you are able TO MAKE IT SAY whatever suits you. How ironic your deal is. JESUS SAID "BEFORE the flood" You say "nope leave that out, I must be 'honest' with it, so we can...
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    I would like some perspectives on Revelation.

    Hyperpauline doctrine. Under that methodology none of the bible is for .modern man. Romans is only for romans Hebrews is only for Hebrews. ...and so on.
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    Rapture

    So you are saying in Noah that there was a few yrs of tribulation where a world leader was chopping off the heads of the righteous and there was no buying or selling, or planning for the future? Oh wait, postrib prewrath does not even remotely fit. Pretrib rapture fits perfectly once Jesus...
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    Psalm 91

    Name and badge number please Mr better than me officer. How ironic your deal is. Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy...
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    Rapture

    Pre Jacob's trouble 7 yr trib? That is what the bible and Jesus taught.
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    Psalm 91

    Uh no. The 3 of ps 91 is for the righteous. They stand just fine as written.
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    Rapture

    Then cut Rev 14:14 out of your bible
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    Rapture

    Lol The parade of non issues is endless with postribs. Miss Mcdonald was a postribber. Inspite of her dream , she believed the church must go through the trib for "cleansing". Do you guys check anything out? First ones are taken by satan? That's pretty odd because Jesus said that the setting...
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    Rapture

    When you read that everyone on the planet takes the mark not written in the book of life, and that power is given to the Antichrist to overcome the saints, And that refusing the mark is guaranteed martyrdom, what do you do with all of that??
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    Rapture

    Nice try!!!! But .. 1) in neither the second coming, or the rapture is the world's population completely destroyed. ( so we know taking Jesus analogy there can not be destruction of the wicked) 2) Jesus said half taken, half left behind. No postribber has ever discovered those words of Jesus...
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    Rapture

    I have never debated a postribber that knew the pretrib rapture doctrine. We have the verses. Our study is way way way beyond the "powerpoints" of a postrib rapture theory. We are anti omission. Postrib rapture doctrine NEVER brings forth our study and verses. NEVER. What they do is adopt a...
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    Rapture

    ...bizarre how you and Gary can read blains post and get "shame" out of it. Postrib has a twist on most everything. I have challenged postribbers to show me a verse supporting their postrib rapture theory. Now, 40 years later, I still wait.
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    Rapture

    You are saying Noah is a "postrib /prewrath" dynamic/ analogy? If that is the case, then we need the. Commerce, normal life , everyday life, future planning, AS SAID BY JESUS, ( that you claim he didn't say), to be Jesus's error???? Your scenario is way way off. There was no such postrib...
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    Psalm 91

    There are 3 conditions to the promises of ps 91
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    Rapture

    This is where the bible comes in. You are simply theorizing and guessing. The bible says the AC IS given power to overcome the saints. The Bible says every man woman and child on the planet takes the mark whose names are not in the book. The bible says that the AC overcomes the saints The Bible...