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  1. Jocund

    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    1) You are entitled to an opinion but you can't deny that "earth was reaped" can refer to the grapes of wrath rather than a rapture. 2) the term you are looking for is Jewish Christians. On what scriptural grounds are you ruling out proselytes? Proselytes also belong to a respective tribe. Which...
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    Scientific Proof that all things came into being through the word of God?

    I appreciate the feedback! God can raise stones into descendants of Abraham. It is hardly the case that creations must always reproduce their own kind. "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    You have made some assumptions: 1) Earth was reaped = rapture 2) The 144000 are Jewish 3) redeemed from the earth = rapture 4) The passages describe events in perfect chronology Each of your assumptions are not necessarily true. It is possible that: 1) The "earth was reaped" refers to the...
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    Scientific Proof that all things came into being through the word of God?

    We might look at a stone arch in the same way. How is it possible to balance so many stones at the same time and fit them into an arch perfectly without it falling apart? How was the keystone perfectly put into place? To the naive eye, we might make assumptions about how impossible it is to...
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    How old is our creation really?

    The time it takes for half of C14 to decay into N14 is about 5730 years. That's a halflife, meaning that after 11460 years, 25% of the original content remains. Every 5730 years the content gets halved. 100%, 50%, 25%, 12.5%, 6.25%, 3.125%, 1.5625%, etc. The effectiveness of carbon dating isn't...
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    Scientific Proof that all things came into being through the word of God?

    An interesting phenomenon especially considering the text was originally transmitted orally until about 500 BC or later (the book of Job is the oldest book).
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    The verses Rom 5:9, 1 Thes 1:10, and 1 Thes 5:9 do not explicitly demonstrate a rapturous deliverance from suffering God's wrath. Here's why: Case 1) Deliverance does not mean that one necessarily completely avoids suffering that thing, only that the end result is to be taken away from it...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    I believe you are trying to cite Rev 3:10, which is directed at one of twelve churches. "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." - Revelation 3:10 KJV Three...
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    Pretrib rapture gained movement in the 1800s. Pretrib rapture is factually a new age concept.
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    Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

    And a huge distraction from the global sex trade industry that was beginning to be uncovered at the time the virus/infection started hitting the news.
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    where does it say that regathering of Jewish People into the Holy land would be christians?

    Your question requires the interpretation that there is a regathering into any particular geographical area. The reference you are probably making is to OT prophesy on Israel. The NT states that those in Christ are the inheritors of the promise ("Not all of Israel are Israel").
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    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    I agree. Pretrib rapture is a new age concept. TPT has a great scholarly take on the passages that new age folk like to try to use in support of their view of pretrib rapture: "Then we who are alive will join them, transported together[a] in clouds[b] to have an encounter[c]with the Lord in...
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    Need Encouragement

    Your heart is in the right place and Godspeed the love in your heart that it reaches others in need. A puzzle I was never able to answer in my head was what if the suicidal person believes that they are fulfilling God's will by attempting to take themselves out of the picture? Some lines that...
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    Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

    Historically, that kind of behaviour has happened before. Such as the French government and the Haitian genocide. Why would you assume the effects of the infection would necessarily be the same as the injection?
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    Need Encouragement

    Statistically a first attempt is followed by a second attempt within the first 6 months. If they are lucky enough, a third attempt is likely if the reason for the attempts has not been resolved. The lethality of the method tends to increase by each attempt. Maybe first it's pills then hanging...
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    Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

    The number of cycles (Ct) for the PCR test influences the false positive rates. Individual factors are taken into consideration when choosing the number of cycles that are run. Is vaccination status not one of the individual characteristics taken into consideration? If a lower number of cycles...
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    We christians claim that the holy spirit is teaching us into all truth so why then do we have contradicting interpretations of scripture?

    Whatever we do, we should avoid anti-intellectualism. We should be able to come to the same conclusion with all three methods: logos, pathos, and ethos (appealing to logic, appealing to feelings, appealing to credibility/authority). There's no need to execute Galileo. We're actually not all...
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    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    "Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend." - Proverbs 27:17 KJV What is your interpretation of rapture and Revelation?
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    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    This is good. An attempt to use scripture to address a point. It does not substantiate your perspective of "righteous gathered first" in the harvest, but the attempt to reference specific verses of scripture in any capacity is appreciated. In this segment of Mat 13 we see "tares gathered" in 39...