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    Saved by Water

    “Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you...
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    Why are we christians in the habit of misapplying this text?

    Don’t forget this part. ““If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with...
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    The perennial Acts 2.38 confusion .

    See how Thayer’s Lexicon translates this passage below. Thayer's Greek Lexicon STRONGS NT 2967: κωλύω κωλύω; imperfect 1 person plural ἐκωλύομεν (Mark 9:38 T Tr text WH); 1 aorist ἐκώλυσα; passive, present κωλύομαι; 1 aorist ἐκωλύθην; (from κόλος, lopped, clipped; properly, to cut off, cut...
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    Absolutely not calling Jesus a liar. Isn’t 1 John inspired. I just showed you scripture. “Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time...
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    How about this one? Once you believe you have already been born again. “Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:1‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/59/1jn.5.1.esv “I write these...
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    P75, Sinaiticus, and Vaticanus all have eis in them. Eis actually means into. μετάνοιαν εἰς ἄφεσιν ἁμαρτιῶν A change of mind into forgiveness of sins.
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    Your first sentence about the Jews being told to be water baptized is what I was commenting on. The article lays out a reason to doubt that actual water baptisms took place with the 3000 on Pentecost because it would have violated the restrictions on doing any customary work on Pentecost...
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    What do you think about this article? If anyone has any thoughts please share them. https://terminalsalvation.com/2015/07/09/into-what-did-the-3000-get-baptized-on-the-day-of-pentecost/
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    This is where I first ran across this translation of Acts 2:38. Since then I have cross referenced the meanings of the words and haven’t been able to prove this wrong. Then I found the CJB translation of the Bible which translates Acts 2:38 in essentially the same way. So he isn’t the only...
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    I don’t know why it was translated that way. When you look at the definitions of the Greek words, the CJB translation appears to be more accurate. It takes the emphasis away from the immersion and links repentance to forgiveness of sins. Think about Luke 24:47. “Then he said to them, “These...
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    The MAIN "Divider" Of denominations!

    This is how a Messianic Jewish Theologian translated Acts 2:38. Notice he doesn’t see a water immersion. The immersion is into forgiveness of sins. “Kefa answered them, “Turn from sin, return to God, and each of you be immersed on the authority of Yeshua the Messiah into forgiveness of your...
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    Is repentance necessary for forgiveness?

    Think about this: “To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:43‬ ‭ESV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/59/act.10.43.esv Peter says here that everyone who believes in Jesus receives forgiveness of sins. He also...
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    How We Can Tell If We Possess The Agape of God

    If you use the same website and look up Strong’s #26 or agape, you will see that agapao is the root word of agape. If you also read Thayer’s Lexicon you will find mention of Romans 13:10 and John 15:13. These are examples of agape being used as the love one has for friends or neighbors. “For...
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    Justification ongoing?

    As I think about what you are saying here a few things come to my mind. “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/1jn.2.4.kjv This seems to agree with your statement. But we also have...
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    Not By Works

    Nothing here indicates that the many are exclusively Saints. Think about agape in these instances: “For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/2co.5.14.kjv Christ loved...
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    Not By Works

    I wasn’t commenting on that part of your assertion. This verse does not say that the many are working iniquity. You said this: Therefore, these "many" are saints who, through the practice of iniquity, kill their agape cold and dead, fail to endure to the end, and are not saved in the end...
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    Not By Works

    The verse does not say the many were the ones causing iniquity to abound. It also doesn’t say that saints were working iniquity. You can’t even twist it into saying that. It isn’t there. “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬...
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    Not By Works

    “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/mat.24.12.kjv This verse doesn’t say that iniquity was practiced by the many. It also doesn’t say that saints practiced iniquity. If saints didn’t practice iniquity, and...
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    Not By Works

    I am not ignoring it, see my post #151390 You said in reference to Matthew 24:12 Therefore, these "many" are saints who, through the practice of iniquity, kill their agape cold and dead, fail to endure to the end, and are not saved in the end. Jesus said in Matthew 7:23 “And then will I...
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    Not By Works

    Matthew 7:23 “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/mat.7.23.kjv Those who work iniquity are not saints and never knew Christ.