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...elsewhere)... ... I'm surprised that @ewq1938 hasn't brought up this fact yet :D Note: even though he and I have differing "rapture-timing" views, we completely agree that what I bolded in your post above, as well as the quote about D. MacPherson's book and the info he supplied therein...

...... whereas... [Paul said... re: "watch" pertaining to His coming (His coming for us to catch us up/away / snatch [G726], i.e. "our rapture [in the air]")] --1 Thessalonians 5:10 - "[Who died for us, that,] WHETHER WE MAY WATCH [same Grk word as in v.6] or WHETHER WE MAY SLEEP [same Grk...

...only takes place after His RETURN TO THE EARTH; ...it does NOT take place UP THERE... ... and is NOT what takes place upon "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" (it doesn't take place up there AT ALL--"the wedding FEAST/SUPPER" takes place ON THE EARTH, commencing only upon His "RETURN" THERE [to the...

...even at the doors" of v.33 and [same point] His Second Coming to the earth of vv.29-31 [corresponding with Isa27:9,12-13; i.e. not about "our Rapture"]; --"knoweth" is in the "PERFECT tense" (perfect indicative), meaning, no one (not even Jesus) "knew," (up-to and) at the time this was...

...we/the Church which is His body are not a part of the "WHEAT" harvest? (i.e. that there is "more than one" HARVEST [note: not more than one RAPTURE]--and thus "more than one" FIRSTFRUIT--both in Scripture and in nature) [I've made a number of posts in the past on that subject]...

...coming to "MARRY"... though they are indeed also "saints/believers/righteous/saved" persons, having come to faith in Christ FOLLOWING "our Rapture"... IN/DURING/WITHIN the Trib yrs) ____________ Not all saints of all time periods are "THE BRIDE / WIFE"... example "the FRIEND of the...

Consider: --"the wedding FEAST / SUPPER / FESTIVITIES" takes place upon His "RETURN" to the earth, and IS "the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age" (or at least, its inauguration); --so, yes, ALL "saints" will BE PRESENT to enjoy it (some as "the Bride/Wife [singular]"...

...in the future OF THE SAME CATEGORY]) ... and the fulfillment of this passage (Mt24:4 / Mk13:5 and following) takes place FOLLOWING "our Rapture," with the Matt24:4 / Mk13:5 "G5100 - tis - 'A CERTAIN ONE'" they are to BEWARE of (in particular, because there will be "MANY who come in My name...

...But why do that, when we have the entire Bible at our fingertips? = ) [I see many people making this very claim, however, about "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]," mistakenly claiming that 1Th4:17 is the ONLY place Paul spoke of it... not realizing that Paul actually spoke of this concept...

...from Matt24:4 onward (through two chpts) is speaking to THAT context (i.e. from v.4 onward [including both chpts] is what FOLLOWS "our Rapture"). Another way to look at it: ALL "Son of man COMETH / COMING / SHALL COME / COMING OF / etc" is speaking of THIS (His Second Coming TO THE EARTH...

...to the earth, vv.29-31, which "GREAT" trumpet parallels the CONTEXT of Isaiah 27:9,12-13--SEE THAT PASSAGE), He was nowhere referencing "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]," as THAT was NOT His Subject, here; ... rather, His Subject in His Olivet Discourse (except for about 12 verses in Lk21 about...

Agreed. "ENOCH" (ONE MAN) is a type of "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" (and this occurred well-before "judgment" [the flood judgment] unfolded upon the earth); "Noah [and crew]" and "Lot," on the other hand, are examples used by Jesus (Matt24; Lk17) NOT of "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" but of...

...that ANY MEMBER of the Church which is His body (throughout its entire existence on the earth, since the first century... and up till "our Rapture") CAN (at any given moment or spans of time) EXPERIENCE "tribulation" and "persecutions" and even "martyrdom" (NOTHING in Scripture precludes...

...grave/death]") applies to the "we which are ALIVE and remain unto" ("unto" the point in time being referenced in that passage, i.e. at "our Rapture [in the air]" time-slot, along with "the dead in Christ" who shall "rise" [out-from the dead] first, before we are "caught up TOGETHER [at the...

To be as clear as possible, not "more than one" RAPTURE" (or, "OUR episynagoges UNTO HIM"); but "more than one" gathering of saints, yes: the one spoken of in Matt24:29-31 / Isaiah 27:9,12-13 [/Rom11:27/Dan9:24] (at the "GREAT" trumpet) is a completely DISTINCT gathering from that of our...

...Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (Eph1:20-23 WHEN [as to its existence]) is distinct from those who will be coming to faith in Christ FOLLOWING "our Rapture" (i.e. the 5th Seal martyrs, for one example). "Rapture" pertains SOLELY TO "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (all those saved "in this...

"just as He [God the Father] chose us ["the Church which is His body"--see Eph1:20-23 WHEN (as to its existence--from Pentecost to our Rapture, i.e. all those saved "in this present age [singular]," aka the presently-betrothed "bride" of Christ--2Cor11:2)] in Him [in Christ] before [pro] the...

...post, and note esp. what I'd put there re: v.18): Post #733 - https://christianchat.com/threads/is-the-false-teaching-of-pre-tribulation-rapture-getting-the-power-of-him-out-of-the-way-who-restrains-the-antichrist.195880/post-4459983 Hope that helps you see how I understand Wm Kelly's...

...upon each individual believers' DEATH, for example). If you do, where do you insert this event into your "up-and-immediately-down-again" [rapture] scenario? (or, you could say, at what point do the "CROWNS" come in?) ____________ Oh, and one other [kind of unrelated, but semi-related]...

..."SON OF MAN coming [etc]" passages speak to His Second Coming TO THE EARTH [FOR the EARTHLY MK age], to judge and to reign [NOT OF "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" Subject, per context]) Ditto to everything I said above. Scripture, when referring to His "RETURN" speaks only of certain things...