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    Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

    The word "harpagēsometha [G726]" ['snatched / catching-away / caught-up'] is not used with regard to the "2W' in Rev11, and I believe purposely so... Rather, the word "anebēsan [G305]" is used (Rev11:12), and I believe is purposely this way to clearly DISTINGUISH it from a "snatch /...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    So, what do you make of what 1Th 3:13 is saying (where it also talks about "the coming / parousia of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints"), where the phrase "before [G1715] the God and Father of us" is also mentioned? (This comports also with the scene in Rev4, regarding the "24 elders"...
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    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    ...events (Lk21:23,20; Matt22:7, etc), but not that He "RETURNED" to do so (biblically speaking). [inserting this] And I see NO mention of "harpazo / SNATCH [IN THE AIR]" of anyone in the events surrounding 70ad. I do see this, however: "and they shall be LED AWAY CAPTIVE into all the...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    [I changed up the order of these quotes so I could address this part first ^ ] In the text, the word "first" does NOT hook up with the clause about "the man of sin be revealed". It is instead connected to the clause preceding that one. Yes, it makes a difference. Recall, I've pointed out...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ...[singular]"... See Eph1:20-23 WHEN [as to its existence]), one of which is the doctrine of "rapture / snatch / caught up / harpagēsometha / harpazo [G726]"--which was not promised to OT saints nor to Trib saints, thus does not pertain to them at all ("Rapture [IN THE AIR]" pertains SOLELY TO...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ..."FUTURE"; Comp. v.9 with Rom11:26-27,15... along with Dan9:24's "TIME-prophecy" re: Daniel's people and Daniel's holy city); It is not a "harpazo / snatch / rapture / caught-away," but rather, a "shall be gathered ONE BY ONE" (to JERUSALEM)... i.e. the OPPOSITE OUTCOME from that of the "70ad"...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ..."POST-tribbers" do ^ ... which some posts in this thread have pointed out... A few, for example: --there is NO mention of "harpagēsometha / harpazo / snatch / caught-away / rapture [G726]" (TO the meeting of the Lord IN THE AIR) in Matthew 24 (or its numerous parallel passages, that is, in...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    Agreed. Paul makes very clear the SEQUENCE (Rapture before the start of "the DOTL" time-period of Judgments unfolding upon the earth), and he REPEATS this sequence THREE TIMES in 2Th2 (and which sequence AGREES with the SAME sequence shown in his first letter to them--chpt4 & 5... Not to mention...
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    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ...[<--this latter verse, a time-prophecy also specifically re: "THY [Daniel's] people, and THY [Daniel's] holy city"] No one is being "harpazo'd / snatched [TO the meeting of the Lord IN THE AIR]" in any of these texts. = ) [I just read someone's post on a different discussion board...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    ...the "days" being referred to in that chpt, vv1,6-7, aka at the END of the second half of the future Trib period. No OT saint was promised "SNATCH / harpazo [IN THE AIR]"... They were promised "resurrection" ('to stand again' on the earth)... for those reading along (I think you, cv5, grasp...
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    RAPTURE

    ...point. Those folks are still located on the earth upon His "return" there, and it is never said of them that they lift off the earth (or are "harpazo'd" / snatched, in any way). [for the readers: "the Bride/Wife [singular]" (pertaining to "the MARRIAGE" itself, v.7) is distinct from...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    ...pertain solely to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (see Eph1:20-23 [WHEN (as to its existence)]; the concept of "rapture / snatch / caught up / harpazo [G726]" pertains SOLELY TO/FOR/ABOUT "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (ALL those saved "in this present age [singular]"), not to all other saints...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    I think what you mean to say is that there is no mention (nor concept) of "harpazo [G726]" in the Olivet Discourse. And here is what Strong's Concordance (and Exhaustive Concordance) have to say about that word (used in 1Th4:17, regarding "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY"... ALL those having...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    ..."stand again" (are "resurrected") and then we're "caught up together with" them (that's at the "snatch" time-slot, i.e. "rapture / harpazo"); rather is referring to when He will bring us [the entire "Church which is His body" in glorified bodies] WITH [G4862] Him upon His RETURN to the earth...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    ...period), thus are "saints" (of a distinct time-period--Again, FOLLOWING "our Rapture"--and who, like the OT saints, have never been promised "harpazo / snatch / rapture / caught up" IN THE AIR... to the meeting of the Lord, THERE; no, they are still located ON THE EARTH upon His RETURN THERE...
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    Thief in the Night-- Pretrib or Second Coming?

    Actually, the text states, "shall be caught up together with them"... that means the harpazo (snatch / rapture / caught up action) occurs in one singular action for both at the same time, not two, as you seem to be suggesting. The verb (caught-up) and the adverb (together) must be attached...
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    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    What I think you mean is (correct me if I've misunderstood you), that He was not "raptured / snatched / caught up / harpazo'd [G726]," but rather "[actively] ascend[ed]" at His first ascension ON Firstfruits--His Resurrection Day (and LATER... some "40 days" later, in Acts 1, was 'taken up' on...
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    Any Post or Non-Tribbers in Here?

    ..."and they shall be led away captive into all the nations" 70ad aspect OF the Olivet Discourse). IOW, this passage is NOT a "SNATCH / harpazo / caught up / rapture" passage. = ) ____________ ETA: see this example (of wording) to gather what this type of thing is referring to: "36I will...
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    An Analysis on the 144,000 in Revelation

    Can you show us any OTHER passage (besides Rev12:5) where Scripture uses the word "G726 - harpazo / harpagēsometha / hērpasthē " [SNATCHED / RAPTURED / CAUGHT UP / CAUGHT AWAY]" to speak of Jesus' ascension / traveling up / going up to Heaven ?? [aren't you always the one calling for TWO...
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    The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.

    ^ Scripture never states of the "two witnesses" that they are "SNATCHED" ("harpazo [G726--commonly called 'rapture']"). Just sayin' = )