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  1. Yahshua

    Struggling reading through romans 8 & 9 and Calvinism.

    The promises were indeed made [TO] an ethnic bloodline, we literally read that from Genesis. Christ was never spoken to by the Almighty about these promises in the OT, it was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob being spoken to when these promises were made. Almighty made promises to them. What you really...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    Well, there's no evidence from the passage that God turned any rocks into children of Abraham or turned any trees or any grass into them either. We know He could make anyone into the children of Abraham, but there's no evidence He did here. ...And if He did, we'd also have to wrestle with the...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    Whenever I speak of the Jews or Israel as it relates to the prophecy (blessing or punishment) I'm never referring - in any way - to the modern folks who call themselves "jews" or "jewish", UNLESS I also mention Edom, Edomites, or Esau. Please see my latest post to you in the other thread. When...
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    Struggling reading through romans 8 & 9 and Calvinism.

    ^I think this is at the heart of your contention: the modern geopolitical state that calls itself Israel. From what I've read of your responses in this and the other thread, it seems that because you've found that the current state can not possibly fulfill the promises made to Israel (a view I...
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    Struggling reading through romans 8 & 9 and Calvinism.

    Welcome. There are many denominations and sects born out of hyper-focusing on archaic words, stripping them from their plain meaning and transforming them into doctrines that cause later readers to stumble. I'd like to share a bit of context and then (hopefully) allow the scriptures to reveal...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    Definitely worth exploring. Are they eligible to be regathered? Who determines their eligibility? 100% Agree. Just focusing on the point of contention which is, whether there are promises specific to ethnic Israel (i.e natural branches). I offered for your consideration the promise of...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    I was quite clear that I hadn't started the process of addressing your question yet by providing a passage until after I addressed other points you had made first. Such wasn't subject to your rules.
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    Context is found in Deut 28:15-64 (Moses in pronouncing this prophecy over Israel just prior to dying and Joshua taking over leadership) However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    I'm not sure if you realize this...but throughout your reply you've stayed away from what was specifically addressed in scripture and appealed to what "might be" the reason, "may have" been the motivation, "could have" been possible, "can be" the interpretation. I'm not sure if these are...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    I think the first point you agreed with is probably a sufficient foundation to share an OT passage regarding a promise made specifically to Israel, so I'll come back to it, but if I may... Isn't it consistent that if members of the body have "...different offices of duty/domain. An eye to an...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    Ok, yes I think this is fair. Ok before I share an OT passage, with regard to the passage "there is neither Jew or Gentile", would you agree with the following statement? The context of the Galatians passage was "righteousness/Justification", not an all-encompassing statement also including...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    I agree with everything you said except for this last portion and want to push back at it a bit. If bloodlines didn't matter then it wouldn't have mattered which tribe and family the Messiah was born within. It mattered because He had to establish a legal, rightful, earthly claim to the throne...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    Ezekiel was written when the Jews were in babylonian captivity. So I believe its pages prophesy the order of events following their return to the land (Nehemiah), through to the destruction of Jerusalem (70AD), to the resurrection of the dead and their final return to the land. The passage...
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    How many People Think the Jews Could Be Wrong?

    Agreed. Speaking to the Samaritan woman, Messiah said: John 4:21-24 21“ Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is...
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    As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

    I think there's some truth to what PennEd speaks but I always love a perfectly timed gif. lol
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    Can God be tempted? How well do we truly know Jesus Christ?

    I suppose one could make an argument for such but as it stands the meaning of the word physical is distinct from something of the mind. Physical - 1. relating to the body as opposed to the mind. 2. relating to things perceived through the senses as opposed to the mind; tangible or concrete...
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    Can God be tempted? How well do we truly know Jesus Christ?

    This is a strawman. You've added the word "physical". Thinking is an action but thought isn't physical. To understand the phrase "in the heart" or "out of the heart" recall the command to "love the Lord with all your heart". It isn't a commandment of "feelings". It specifically has to do with...
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    Can God be tempted? How well do we truly know Jesus Christ?

    Post, brother, if we take this statement of truth and pull it apart notice that there's an action described. "...looketh on a woman to lust after her" = committed adultery. An action was taken. It wasn't taken directly with the woman but the action was taken. - an iniquitous/wicked heart...
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    Can God be tempted? How well do we truly know Jesus Christ?

    :)...:unsure: This is all I hear while reading the last posts... John 7:12 And there was much murmuring about Him among the crowds. For some were saying, "He is good." But others were saying, "No, but He deceives the people." Luke 20:1-2 1 And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as...
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    Ham

    It's possible that it was "an eye for an eye" situation. As Ham (Noah's youngest) shamed him, and so was Canaan (Ham's youngest) cursed to shame him?