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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Jesus told us how to be born again as moses lifted the serpent so must the son of man be lifted THAT WHOEVER believes will never die, but has life eternal.. thats how we are born again. By trusting in him and his offer of salvation
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Thats not what it says though it says he loved the world. And died for them.. so whoever…… whoever means anyone out in the world..
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    He dies so they may be born again. No one in the next world will need to be born again. So he did not die for the next world.. May I ask where you heard that?
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    He died for the world that whoever (in the world) He did not say he died for the elect so they or the would so it
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    No, if that was true he would have said he died fr elect so when they believed he did not say that, he said the world that whoever.
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Sorry, it does nt say that. It says he died for the would SO THAT anyone who believes shall never perish.. but live forever. The world is kosmos. Or satans system and those who are trapped in it.. He came not t judge but to save that which was lost. Which is everyone.
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Exactly yet while they were yet sinners. Christ died for them. Why? he loved them and he died for the world. Not the elect. He died for everyone
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    They are estranged. Because they are lost. it does not mean God hates them, he would/has died for them. Because he loved them,
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    I think he/she is wrong
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Jacob did not hate the kid..
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    For God so loved the world.. Thats everyone, including Esau
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    When God in Micah said Jacob I loved bu esau he hated. He spoke of the nations. Israel he loved, but EDOM he hated He did not hate a kid who was not even born yet.. Don;t get all calvinistic on me
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Then there is no salvation that can be lost it does not matter if i am right or wrong what matters is what God says
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    Who said esau was lost? All people in all times have been saved by grace. No one could earn salvation no one/
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    No, It says the cross was insufficient.. so it puts Christ to shame
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    He does have a limit commit 1 sin, and your done.. after this, there is only grace..
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    It can only happen according to salvation if salvation is because of works Otherwise it can never happen.
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    You too Bro!
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    Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

    I had the same thing happen. I was a prodigal son myself..