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nope ... Eph 2:2-3 does not describe the Elect, the Lord Jesus Christ. Eph 2:2-3 describes the believer before he or she was born again. Ephesians 2:1-3 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world...

1 Cor 2:14 relates to the mystery, the hidden wisdom as has been explained to you. You reject the truth of Scripture ... change the meaning of Scripture ... and in so doing, you remain ignorant of both the gospel (which is the power of God unto salvation – Rom 1:16) and the mystery, the hidden...

I told you my understanding and you reject. so be it. If they could "hear spiritually" they would not have needed the Lord Jesus Christ to explain the meaning to them as shown later in Matt 13. The ones who listened up! and paid attention! were just as ignorant of the meaning of the parables...

I never said a person gives "ears to hear spiritually" to themselves. Why do you continuously bring up matters which are not at issue? Again, a statement never uttered by me, nor implied by me. What I said was Jesus spake many things to them (vs 3) and when He was finished speaking, He told...

No ... that is not "the essence of [my point]". That is your private interpretation of what you believe is "the essence of [my point] ". My point is that God reaches out to mankind through Scripture (which is His Word – He is the Author). So God initiates the contact. People either turn to...

You do know that Scripture is God's Word (all Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness – 2 Tim 3:16), yes? And that Scripture is one of the means in which God reaches out to mankind ... and that is...

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Elect ... until a person is born again, he or she is dead in trespasses and sins ... walks according to the course of this world ... had their conversation in the lusts of the flesh ... were by nature the children of wrath, even as others: Ephesians 2:1-3 And you...

this is what I have been telling you, brightfame52 ... those who will be cast into the lake of fire are those who heard the gospel and rejected it. Romans 1:18-20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in...

There is only One "Elect" ... that is the Lord Jesus Christ. Those who do not suppress the truth in righteousness when they hear the gospel (Rom 1:16-18) are the ones who trust and believe and then are sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise (Eph 1:13). Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also...

That is not what is written in Scripture, brightfame52. Those who reject do so because they suppress the truth in unrighteousness, just as God tells us: Romans 1: 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it [the gospel of Christ] is the power of God unto salvation to every one...

:rolleyes: … no wonder your gospel consists of lies such as what you stated here: When God says: 1 Timothy 2:4 Who [God] will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. He means all men. That God allows folks to reject Him does not mean He does not want all men...

If you read the full post I submitted, you would see that I went back further than vs 11: "And in vs 16, the Lord Jesus Christ is speaking to those who continued with Him after He spoke to great multitudes as He taught by the seaside (Matt 13:1-2). Jesus spake many things to them (vs 3) and...

I did not state what you claim. Here is what I said in Post 522: 16 Nevertheless when it [the heart of the reader] shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 2 Cor 3:15-16 – the veil remains upon the heart of some when they read Scripture. However, when the reader turns his or her...

:rolleyes: oh brother ... you don't like what's written in 1 Tim 2:4 and instead of believing what is written by the Author of Scripture, you harden your heart to the truth, change God's Word to your erroneous dogma, skip what is written in 1 Tim 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, as well as 2 Tim 1 and the first...

Your denial of Scripture does not change Scripture to your stated erroneous dogma. 1 Cor 2:14 relates to the mystery, the hidden wisdom. You have been, and continue to be, blown about by a wind of doctrine: Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried...

nope ... God needs you to read Scripture and believe what is written without inserting your erroneous dogma into what He, as the Author, has written. 1 Timothy 2:4 Who [God] will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. God says all men ... not "elect" as you...

:rolleyes: iow ... you are going to continue to conflate the gospel with the mystery, the hidden wisdom and in so doing you understand neither the gospel nor the mystery, the hidden wisdom. nope ... 1 Cor 2:14 clearly refers to the mystery, the hidden wisdom as well as other spiritual matters...

2 Corinthians 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day...

God's desire: 1 Timothy 2:4 Who [God] will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from...

sure there is ... let go of your erroneous dogma and believe Scripture. nope ... 1 Cor 2:14 refers to the mystery, the hidden wisdom. I have explained this truth to you many, many times and you continue to suppress/restrain the truth in unrighteousness. your erroneous dogma is more precious...