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These are those whom he was addressing - not Israel. [Rom 1:7, KJV] 7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. ... "beloved of God": the elect; "saints": those saved; "grace to you and peace from God"...

Wrong. First, it would be impossible for me to convey how little it means to me what you care or don't care about. Second, the children of the promise are they who are/will be saved and given true faith: the elect, comprised of both Jews and Gentiles, not just Jews - all those saved by Christ...

Here is the verse again. It is saying that only those who the Father draws to the Son will come to Him and be saved on the last day. That drawing includes the giving of faith in Christ to them - and as it is with all things accompanying salvation. But, per the verse, their faith is not...

No. Do you see the "I will raise him up at the last day" part? That means only those whom God intends to raise up will be those who become drawn and come to Christ - not everyone will be. The verse is self-limiting as to whom it is referring to. Do you think that everyone will be saved? If...

You're joking, right? You've got to be, so I'll take it that way. And both are saying that for someone to have spiritual discernment, they must first become born-again. Natural unsaved man does not have it. Yeah - typical reply for someone who has run out ways to retreat and has been...

Yeah, I used verses that say natural man cannot know God and I figured you'd get around to the verses you posted. They are explained by the fact that they (and all of the unsaved), have not been given spiritual discernment by God to be able to comprehend things spiritual. They may have some...

No, I did not make your point and that you think so is scary. No, man is NOT choosing there. The "him that cometh to me" are only those the Father gave to Christ and no one else. If God hasn't specifically given someone to Christ, then they cannot/will not come to Christ and therefore not seek...

Yeah, I know that's what you do but that's not what the Bible tells us to do and that's your problem. By doing it the way you do, you are being led to the earthly, not to the spiritual. The Bible was written by God to be on both levels simultaneously but we are to look for and find the...

Incorrect. [Jhn 6:44 KJV] 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. [Jhn 12:37-38 KJV] 37 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: 38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might...

Ridiculous. Since you're so sure, show us the original version from the temple in its original form.

These verses are the foundation - no more, no less: [Heb 10:7 KJV] 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. [Jhn 6:37-39 KJV] 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38...

Given the interpretations you come up with, I think not.

You don't think that verse is from God? Really? You apparently don't realize what you read and therefore you arrive at invalid/incorrect interpretations

The problem is in the "with all the heart" part. Only those given a new heart and new spirit (those born again), will search with all the heart and soul. [Ecc 9:3 KJV] 3 This [is] an evil among all [things] that are done under the sun, that [there is] one event unto all: yea, also the heart of...

[Rom 9:19-23 KJV] 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay...

You didn't make them up but neither did you consider them in light of the whole gospel message. Why do you think God tells us that He writes His laws into the heart and mind of those He saves? If He had to do that, then for those whom He does not save, His laws are not within them, and...

[2Co 4:4 KJV] 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. [Psa 51:6 KJV] 6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden [part] thou shalt...

[Act 13:48 KJV] 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

I don't understand your questions? Why is the number of times the law was mentioned germane? Paul was addressing the elect in Rome, who happened also to be Jews - just as he addressed the elect in Ephesus. To be of the elect trumps and overshadows all other categories or divisions that might...

Individually as the elect, not as the nation. Paul is discussing the fulfillment of the promise made by God to Abraham regarding God's heirs. It, having been made as a promise directly by God, election was utilized by God to bring that promise to fruition. Otherwise, were it dependent upon...