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    The Prodigal Son examined

    Jesus likened the unbelieving Pharisees to sons in the parable of the two sons in Matthew 21. Perhaps you are reading things into the parables that Jesus did not intend. The fact that Jesus likened certain Jews to sons does not mean they were all of His flock nor does it mean they were born...
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    The Prodigal Son examined

    If you look Matthew 21, you will find the religious leaders, scribes and Pharisees likened to sons just as they are in Luke 15, so you are reading too much into the word son. And these parables have absolutely nothi hing to do with the OSAS vs NOSAS debate. That would be using them out of their...
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    The Prodigal Son examined

    Sorry. I didn't see this earlier. The lost are saved, in that Jesus came to seek and save the lost. The three parables are all about the same thing, sinners being found and saved
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    The Prodigal Son examined

    The two sons in the parable of Matthew 21:28-32 represent the same people as the two sons in the parable of the prodigal son. One represents publicans and sinners and the other represents the religious leaders/scribes and Pharisees. This answers the chief objection to the view set forth here...
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    The Prodigal Son examined

    Addendum to last post to absolutely As far as sons, the same principle is used in another parable. Matthew 21: 28 “But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, ‘Son, go, work today in my vineyard.’ 29 He answered and said, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he...
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    The Prodigal Son examined

    It seems to me that the Prodigal had spent his PORTION of the family inheritance. Remember? The Father gave it to him and he spent it on riotous living? Who said anything about returning to the Law? I thought the Publicans and sinners, whom the Prodigal represents were COMING TO JESUS. Yes...
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    \ THis post was to Jaybird, not Joseph. Sorry I did not include the quote I was replying to.
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    I agree with the first statement. I do not agree with the second statement. WE are in a very different situation that our first parents were in when they were in the garden. They were without sin until they fell. We are constantly being cleansed from sin by the blood of Christ. Evem the...
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    Well if you read things in context, you would know that the works that Paul is referring to are OTHER CHRISTIANS. As far as the Law of Grace...have you not read that it is written, the Law came through Moses, but Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. and the Law of Grace is not a codex of...
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    the grace of God teaches us (people who are saved) to deny ungodly lusts and to live soberly and righteously Titus 2:11. This is done by crucifying the flesh and walking in the Spirit.
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    And no one said there is no law for us. We are under the Law of Grace which is much higher and demands much more than the Law of Moses. Please stop posting straw man fallacies, and I will stop replying.
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    Jesus in old testament

    The Law of Grace requires much more than the Law of Moses Remember all the “ you have heard it was said...but I say...” The Law of Grace goes MUCH further than the Law of Moses The Law came through Moses, but Grace and truth came through Jesus. John 1: around verse 15 or so
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    Many foods under the Law were unclean, but I’m the very verse you quoted, Paul says all things are clean. How do you explain that? Now that you’ve refuted yourself...I’ll leave you be
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    In other words, he’s basically trolling. I agree, but the one good thing is we have laid out some answers and principles that we and others can use if we meet others who have similar positions but are more amendable My replies are never intended only for the person I’m talking to. But you’re...
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    I know you mean well, but in all seriousness have you considered that you're wasting your time. There is 4 solid pages of you debating with this guy. I say debate rather converse with, because that's exactly what I meant. I've seen posts on this thread and other threads by this guy, and the...
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    Ummm...are you saying it is impossible to know the intent and meaning of the words that are written in scripture? :What did Paul mean when he said we are dead to the Law? Romans 7:4 delivered from the law Romans 7:6 If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law Galatians 5:18 Are...
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    Answer me this, were the sacrificial codes of the Law (burnt offering, sin offering, trespass offering, etc) abolished, fulfilled, both, or neither? IF they have not been fulfilled, and if they have not been discontinued, are you going to offer animal sacrifices the next time you go to your...
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    Under the Law, you should be offering burnt offerings, peace offerings, trespass and sin offerings...oh wait, Jesus FULFILLED all of those, didn’t He? And we don’t do that anymore, right? So did He only partially fulfill the Law? Or did He finish the work His Father gave Him to do?
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    The sad thing is, you’re not arguing with me, you’re arguing with the New Testament scriptures. You reject en Toto the teachings of Paul. Be honest, you do, don’t you?
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    Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.

    responses to jaybird Kataluo does not mean "to abolish". It means to destroy, throw down, or overthrow. Again, you are putting the Apostle Paul and Jesus at variance, effectively either seeking to cause a civil war within the scriptures or you are completely rejecting the writings of Paul...