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  1. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    I mean this with all due respect sir, I truly do, but it is going to sound harsh so I apologize in advance. You are the type of person who in the middle ages would have burned people at the stake for disagreeing with you, calling them heretics, and in your ignorance thought you were offering...
  2. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    Tell me which one of those verses I manipulated and how? And you are making assertions that I put "misplaced faith in the writings and studies of others" but in my original post I listed no writers but God. You are making the same mistake that 99% of the church has made on eschatology for...
  3. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    The Lord already returned a long time ago so it will be the latter. :p
  4. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    If you want to remain hung up on Rev 13 and ignore the dozens of verses that tell us the TIME when God's kingdom would come (Luke 21:31-32) that is up to you. I understand why people do it. They don't want to lose their "rapture", or their earthly kingdom, or their chance at escape. But the...
  5. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    Do you believe that because of Irenaeus? The same guy who thought Jesus was 50 years old when He was crucified. Irenaeus' statement in the Greek is completely ambiguous. There are two choices. He could have been referring to John Himself or the book of Revelation. FWIW, it is interesting...
  6. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    It doesn't refute Preterism. But TheDivineWatermark and Dcontroversal are talking gibberish. The verse says, in both English and Greek, "Write the things which you have seen (past tense), the things which are (obviously present tense) and the things ABOUT TO take place after this." (future...
  7. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    I already did answer it. The Mark was spiritual and you are trying to make it a PHYSICAL mark. When the first temple was destroyed Ezekiel 8 & 9 records a SPIRITUAL mark being placed on people. Why do you make it physical at the destruction of the second temple? Especially in an apocalyptic...
  8. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    Futurists - whether Dispensational Premill (pre-trib), Historic Premill (post-trib), Amillennial, Postmillennial or Partial Preterist - all make the same mistake of trying to make the kingdom physical. The same kingdom Jesus said would never come that way (Luke 17:20-21).
  9. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    I'm not debating you as if you are pre-trib. None of my comments toward you have even addressed that. You are a futurist. The time statements of Scripture don't allow for it and there are dozens of them by Jesus, Peter, James, John and Paul. If you won't believe them, you aren't going to...
  10. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    To hell in a hand basket? This is one of the big problems with futurist eschatologies today. The world is a horribly evil place and we need to be rescued. No we don't. There is so much good in this world. Yeah, bad happens too. The world has always been that way.
  11. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    This is what happens when Christians don't get the time framework of Bible prophecy correct. The old covenant and law passed away a long time ago and so God does not have a special relationship with ethnic Jewish people anymore. I'm not sure what those men would think about modern day Israel...
  12. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    Well if you are on the west coast of the United States, like me, it is getting close to dinner time. :)
  13. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    @Ahwatukee you quoted in your post #170 this "Give it some serious thought and pray about it. " You should take your own advice. You quoted Isaiah 13 which is about the fall of Babylon to the Medo-Persian empire and not the end of the world as you mistakenly claim. If you just read the...
  14. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    And those verses were fulfilled in 70 AD. :) Rev 6:15-17, "And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us...
  15. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    The verses are clear in what they say. You violate your own literal hermeneutic because you don't want to accept them. That is up to you.
  16. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    The Greek word "mello" is in the present infinitive in Rev 1:19. It does not mean things that WILL take place at some point in the distant future but things that are ABOUT TO take place. Once again, you violate your own hermeneutic. The law passed away in 70 AD (Heb 8:13). The old covenant...
  17. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    We have been over this before. Jesus did not reward anyone "according to their works" at the Transfiguration which shows your interpretation is false. You don't understand it because you make it PHYSICAL. It is being reconciled to God in the SPIRIT. And all of those things listed in Dan...
  18. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    And Hebrews 10:37 which follows that chapter says, "hoson, hoson, micron" in the Greek. I think you said before you know a little Greek so you probably know what that means but just to remind you in English it means a "very, very little" while. The Greek word Micron is where we get the English...
  19. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    We have been over this before. Like many Christians I have interacted with, you do not want to accept what those dozens of verses I listed in my original post plainly and clearly say. You don't want to accept them because it destroys your eschatology. You are obviously a dispensationalist...
  20. delirious

    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    What does the next 7 verses say in Rev 14:14-20? It says that it is the last day of old covenant Israel and the resurrection and judgment is taking place. People are leaving Hades and entering heaven in that moment. That's why they are blessed. There is no sleeping for Christians who die...