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    NDEs and ADCs: Their Apologetic Value for the Christian Faith

    Angelia: ""You are dumber than a doorknob. Jesus did NOT borrow from occultic magical practices. He is God and he didn't have to resort to some mundane practises. " Why do Fundamentalists who are illiterate in modern biblical scholarship resort to vicious ad hominems to compensate for their...
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    NDEs and ADCs: Their Apologetic Value for the Christian Faith

    Your charitable spirit is on display for all to see! No, I merely drew the logical inference from your occult charge. Jesus borrowed from contemporary occult magical practices. So by accusing me you are accusing Him!
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    NDEs and ADCs: Their Apologetic Value for the Christian Faith

    So you dismiss Jesus as a madman for borrowing practices from Greco-Roman magic like the use of clay, spittle, and oil as props or gimmicks for healing? Do you dismiss Paul as a madman for anointing aprons and handkerchiefs of absent sick people--a practice borrowed from contagious magic- and...
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    NDEs and ADCs: Their Apologetic Value for the Christian Faith

    First, you are oblivious to the beliefs of Paul's opponents in Colossians. Actually read the text! He is warning about "worship of angels" and we know that angel worship was a problem with the Judaism of Asia Minor. As already noted, many Jewish Christians even identified Christ as the...
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    NDEs and ADCs: Their Apologetic Value for the Christian Faith

    posthuman,: "you miss the point. your stated point with this thread, in post #1, is that talking about this is literally more useful than talking about the Bible or the gospel for purposes of evangelizing." I have spent months witnessing to the Gospel in the streets and door to door. Have you...
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    NDEs and ADCs: Their Apologetic Value for the Christian Faith

    George Ritchie (age 20) encounters Jesus during his 9 minutes of clinical death and Jesus asks him to give an account of how he lived his life. George points to his status as an eagle scout, but Jesus dismisses that as self-glorifying and reiterates the question. Dr. Raymond Moody is so moved...
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    NDEs and ADCs: Their Apologetic Value for the Christian Faith

    Neb: "In any of these NDEs that you have shared with us, was Jesus confessed as Lord and Savior?" For example, watch my posted YouTube testimony of Howard Storm's NDE conversion and read my account of the Muslim conversion through an NDE. Neb: ""Furthermore, Paul warns us not to trust anyone...
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    What about those who cannot believe in God?

    oyster67,: "You tell them they are honest skeptics when you should actually be telling them that they are lost and confused sinners who cannot see because they refuse to let someone turn the lights on. I suggest that you stop trying to disempower your brethren, who are trying to fulfil the...
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    What about those who cannot believe in God?

    Nehemiah6: "That is hardly the case, since Christians are not looking to skeptics to establish their faith. " On the contrary, evengelicals are unglued by the realization that intelligent unbelievers can be just as intellectually honest, indeed often more honest in their truth seeking than...
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    What about those who cannot believe in God?

    Evangelicals find honest skeptics a threat to their faith. So they disingenuously try to remove the threat by imputing intellectual dishonesty to honest seekers who just find the evidence for evolution for more convincing than what they perceive as crude and implausible biblical creation myths...
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    Is The Lent Period Necessary?

    The responses on this thread eloquently attest the shallow spirituality and intolerance of the Fundmentaqlist posters. First, blaming Lenten disciplines on Catholics ignores the various Protestant denominations who find in Lent a helpful incentive to live a more disciplined life Second, the...
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    Is The Lent Period Necessary?

    salvation chil: "Yes I agree. Its sad how many of these things are created by men and forced onto believers as a requirement." How unkind and judgmental! Liturgical traditions offer the discipline of structures to encourage the church to fast, pray, reflect on whether they have unconfessed...
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    Is The Lent Period Necessary?

    Citing Mardi Gras as an excuse to disrespect Lent is a truly cheap shot. Have you read in the Bible that you need to close your eyes when you pray? No, but it still helps to shut out distractions from focusing on God. Have you read in the Bible that churches should give altar calls after...
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    Is The Lent Period Necessary?

    posthuman: "why - Biblically - is it disrespectful to tell the truth about whether Lent is commanded by God or whether it is a tradition and commandment of men? (1) Slander: the ungodly comparison of Lent to the debauchery of Mardi Gras (2) Posters on this thread display an anti-Catholic...
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    Is The Lent Period Necessary?

    Lanolin, I double down on my charge of disrespect. For example, read post #9. To dismiss Lent as "made-made" tradition" makes as much sense as dismissing the practice of closing your eyes for prayer as unbiblical man-made tradition. The spiritual principles on which Lent is focused as...
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    Is The Lent Period Necessary?

    For a good but simple summary of the origin and purpose of Lent, read: https://stmatthewsnewport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/LENT-Meaning-of.wpd-revised.pdf In the church of my youth (my first 21 years), Lent was not observed. Later, when I became a United Methodist pastor, I came to view...
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    The Life of Jesus' from Evidence Outside our Gospels

    (10) THE MOST EVIDENTIAL BIBLICAL TEXT FOR JESUS' RESURRECTION: The modern scholarly consensus is that none of the Gospel resurrection stories are historically accurate. Past President of The Society of Biblical Literture, Dominic Crossan, labels these stories "parables." According to this...
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    NDEs and ADCs: Their Apologetic Value for the Christian Faith

    BR is a missionary to an African Muslim nation. He shared this testimonh in my parents' church. 2 young missionaries were doing hospital visitation and praying for the gravely ill. Ahmed was dying of AIDs; so they prayed for his healing. But Ahmed was a radical Muslim mullah who hated...
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    How Do You Explain Salvation?

    Some previous posters seem to have overlooked an important distinction: our job is not to communicate the Gospel, but to discern the way to communicate the Gospel that makes the decisive difference. And that can vary from person to person. Quote only a few Bible verses in a given session, lest...