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Simple answer: those who never hear the gospel have no excuse just like those who do hear the gospel. Rom 1:19-21 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power...

What site?? I don't recall a linked site. I believe what Scripture SAYS, not what people may think they mean.

How about God sees believers as forgiven sinners.

No luck needed. And wishing for a pre-trib rapture won't help either. God's Word is very clear. There are only 2 resurrections; one for the saved and one for the lost. Dan 12:2 - Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and...

No, Christians are commanded to "be filled with the Spirit" (Eph 5:18)and "walk by means of the Spirit" (Gal 5:16). Also, Gal 5:16 shows 2 sides of a coin: So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. Paul is giving an "if...then" kind of statement, even...

FreeGrace2 said: Show us any verse that shows Jesus taking resurrected/glorified believers to heaven. That's the evidence for a pre-trib rapture. Reality: the single resurrection of all believers will occur at the Second Advent. 2 Thess 2:1, 1 Cor 15:23, Rev 20:4-6 All very clear. I've read...

Well, consider this at the bottom of his posts: Do Christians Have A Sin Nature? (Absolutely not!) Paul spoke of his own sin nature. Obviously that poster is a troll. Thanks for noting!

FreeGrace2 said: Then put your money where your MOUTH is. Provide actual evidence, or you are a LIAR. That question wasn't worded as it is now. So why didn't you just answer my question when I initially asked you to clarify? Only when they LIE. Wow. What a way to address a fellow believer...

FreeGrace2 said: Then put your money where your MOUTH is. Provide actual evidence, or you are a LIAR. That question wasn't worded as it is now. So why didn't you just answer my question when I initially asked you to clarify? Yes, why did you overlook the question repeatedly? Are you now...

Then put your money where your MOUTH is. Provide actual evidence, or you are a LIAR.

FreeGrace2 said: And I don't answer questions I don't understand. So if you're not interested in clarifying, why bother posting to anyone? Why don't you dig back to the question I asked clarification for. And then explain what he was asking. The posted I asked only got hyper-sentive and...

Your question was that. This is hypersensitive delusion. I asked you to clarify the question. I admitted I didn't understand it.

Whether your question was simple or not, it was garbled enough to not be understood.

Show us any verse that shows Jesus taking resurrected/glorified believers to heaven. That's the evidence for a pre-trib rapture. Reality: the single resurrection of all believers will occur at the Second Advent. 2 Thess 2:1, 1 Cor 15:23, Rev 20:4-6 All very clear.

The nonsense is claiming that it is. OK, the first heaven, then. But not up to the 3rd heaven. And the resurrection is at the Second Advent anyway.

What you can't force is false doctrine into the Bible. You still have NO verse showing Jesus taking glorified believers to heaven. And you have the inexplicable problem about the one resurrection of the saved, which clearly occurs at the Second Advent. 1 Cor 15:23 says that "those who belong...

FreeGrace2 said: This claim is a heresy as Jesus very clearly taught eternal security. As I've just noted. But you are free to choose whatever ideas you want. That is nowhere expressed in Scripture. Salvation is by grace through faith. Eph 2:8. And given all your SDA beliefs, your claim to...

And I don't answer questions I don't understand. So if you're not interested in clarifying, why bother posting to anyone?

Jesus NEVER said that. Or prove it with the verse that quotes Him. In FACT, Jesus noted that he was UNSAVED. John 13- 10 Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet; their whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you.” 11 For he knew who was...

You don't know what you are talking about. He knew what he did was wrong, but did it for the money. And the Bible calls him the "son of perdition". So you aren't fooling anyone.