PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE More edit time.

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EarnestQ

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Please make the post edit time at least four hours and preferably six. It often takes a hour of two for us to realize we made a mistake.

Yes, I use the Preview Post a lot. But since humans are fundamentally imperfect, it sometimes takes more than 3 minutes to realize we made an error.
 

blue_ladybug

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That's why you MUST proof read BEFORE you click the "post quick reply" button. And proof read it more than once.
 

EarnestQ

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That's why you MUST proof read BEFORE you click the "post quick reply" button. And proof read it more than once.


I do. I do. I do. But I still often don't catch all of my mistakes. It takes me time away from the post for an hour or two before I can read it objectively.

Besides, there is no reason not to extend the edit time to a few hours.
 
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It ain't gonna happen. People have been pleading for this for years. They are totally ignored.
 
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Please make the post edit time at least four hours and preferably six. It often takes a hour of two for us to realize we made a mistake.

Yes, I use the Preview Post a lot. But since humans are fundamentally imperfect, it sometimes takes more than 3 minutes to realize we made an error.
I know where you're coming from. Sometimes I make a mistake and don't realize it till I come back to the post later. However, people will reply to a post, and a person could come back and completely change what they said and make the reply look inappropriate.
 

Oncefallen

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I do. I do. I do. But I still often don't catch all of my mistakes. It takes me time away from the post for an hour or two before I can read it objectively.

Besides, there is no reason not to extend the edit time to a few hours.
Maybe not from where you sit, but from where I sit there is extremely good reason to keep edit time short.

It ain't gonna happen. People have been pleading for this for years. They are totally ignored.
Yes, people have been asking for it for years, but there is a big difference between ignoring and choosing to not make the suggested change.
 
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OF is gettin loose. Lol. :cool:
 

Oncefallen

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I know where you're coming from. Sometimes I make a mistake and don't realize it till I come back to the post later. However, people will reply to a post, and a person could come back and completely change what they said and make the reply look inappropriate.
This is the biggest reason for keeping edit time short.

The way that vBulletin functions on my end, if a user deletes a post during the edit time, I can pull up the original post; if a user changes the content of the post, there is no way to retrieve the original.

So, a troll comes in, posts something inflammatory, then changes the content of their post after a couple of replies (but before someone reports it) the person(s) who replied look like they were trolling instead of the real bad guy. Believe it or not, people actually do this sort of thing.

Myself, as an Admin here, have the ability to edit my posts at any time but choose to limit my edits of my own posts to the same time as other users have just out of fairness.
 
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Please make the post edit time at least four hours and preferably six. It often takes a hour of two for us to realize we made a mistake.

Yes, I use the Preview Post a lot. But since humans are fundamentally imperfect, it sometimes takes more than 3 minutes to realize we made an error.
Do your posts on a word-processor program or as a draft email first.

Review it...perhaps more than once and perhaps even over multiple days.

That's how I often handle the more intense/important posts that I do.

I wouldn't mind more time to edit/correct posts, but think I'd be content with 30 minutes.
 

Ugly

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Please make the post edit time at least four hours and preferably six. It often takes a hour of two for us to realize we made a mistake.

Yes, I use the Preview Post a lot. But since humans are fundamentally imperfect, it sometimes takes more than 3 minutes to realize we made an error.
Admins have stated multiple times the edit period will NOT be changed. There ARE specific reasons why the 5 minute rule is in effect.
 

EarnestQ

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Do your posts on a word-processor program or as a draft email first.

Review it...perhaps more than once and perhaps even over multiple days.

That's how I often handle the more intense/important posts that I do.

I wouldn't mind more time to edit/correct posts, but think I'd be content with 30 minutes.


I regularly do this with my longer posts. But even then I make mistakes that that I don't catch until later.
 

EarnestQ

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This is the biggest reason for keeping edit time short.

The way that vBulletin functions on my end, if a user deletes a post during the edit time, I can pull up the original post; if a user changes the content of the post, there is no way to retrieve the original.

So, a troll comes in, posts something inflammatory, then changes the content of their post after a couple of replies (but before someone reports it) the person(s) who replied look like they were trolling instead of the real bad guy. Believe it or not, people actually do this sort of thing.

Myself, as an Admin here, have the ability to edit my posts at any time but choose to limit my edits of my own posts to the same time as other users have just out of fairness.

Thank you for the explanation. I think an hour edit time would still be reasonable.

Why not try it for a month and see if there are many complications from it?
 

Lynx

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So, a troll comes in, posts something inflammatory, then changes the content of their post after a couple of replies (but before someone reports it) the person(s) who replied look like they were trolling instead of the real bad guy. Believe it or not, people actually do this sort of thing.
That is actually precisely why I got in the habit of hitting "quote" when I reply to somebody else's post. Many forums do not have an edit time limit, but if the post I am replying to is saved as a quote in my post then the person to whom I'm replying can't edit what I'm replying to. He can change his post but the original will still be saved in my post.
 

EarnestQ

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That is actually precisely why I got in the habit of hitting "quote" when I reply to somebody else's post. Many forums do not have an edit time limit, but if the post I am replying to is saved as a quote in my post then the person to whom I'm replying can't edit what I'm replying to. He can change his post but the original will still be saved in my post.
I should think this should be sufficient to avoid the problem of a troll changing his post.

If that is the only reason for the short edit time, why not give a two hour edit time trial for a month and see if it causes any serious problems.

I suspect that the number of people who are inconvenienced by the short edit time is far greater than the people who would be inconvenienced by a troll changing their post.
 
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I should think this should be sufficient to avoid the problem of a troll changing his post.

If that is the only reason for the short edit time, why not give a two hour edit time trial for a month and see if it causes any serious problems.

I suspect that the number of people who are inconvenienced by the short edit time is far greater than the people who would be inconvenienced by a troll changing their post.
Yes. And the thing is that extending the edit time really has little to do with someone deleting their post, whatsoever.

Many, many posts take three or four minutes to read. That means that by the time the very first person reads it (assuming they started reading the absolute instant it was posted.... which almost never happens) there is only a minute, or so, left to do any editing if that reader noticed anything wrong.... such as leaving one word (like.... a "NOT") out of a sentence, giving just the opposite meaning of that which was intended.

And if I see something odd like that in someone's post, I almost always go back and re-read their post a second time. (eating up another few minutes) After doing all this... if we are lucky, the original poster MAY have five or six seconds left to reopen their post, hit edit, read enough to find what word might have been left out, and then correct it.

Ain't no way it's gonna happen in five (5) tiny minutes. The post now remains there forever stating just the opposite of what the OP intended it to say, and everyone who reads it thereafter, thinks the poster must be schizophrenic, and they spend 15 or 20 more posts asking him what in the world he is thinking, saying such a crazy thing.
 

Magenta

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Fours hours of edit time is INSANE. A whole thread can happen in that time. If you know you are prone to making such huge errors you need to take responsibility for being more careful.
 

Ugly

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I should think this should be sufficient to avoid the problem of a troll changing his post.

If that is the only reason for the short edit time, why not give a two hour edit time trial for a month and see if it causes any serious problems.

I suspect that the number of people who are inconvenienced by the short edit time is far greater than the people who would be inconvenienced by a troll changing their post.
This site is roughly 15 years old. Everything they have set in place now has been decided on from years if experimentation. It Has been tried and that is Why 5 minutes is in place.
 
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Fours hours of edit time is INSANE. A whole thread can happen in that time. If you know you are prone to making such huge errors you need to take responsibility for being more careful.
"Fours more"????? If this had been an important post, don't you wish you had a bit more time to go correct it?

I'm sending this to you quickly, so that you just might have a chance to do that.
 

PennEd

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I understand admins position, but I have to say, I don't think adding 5 or 10 minutes to the existing 5 minutes would have much of a detrimental effect, and it would give a LITTLE more time to make a correction.

Numerous times I just couldn't make the changes I wanted in the allotted time. This is especially true with using a smartphone instead of a computer. Between the autocorrect feature on the phone messing with you, and the small screen and typing, mistakes happen a lot and are tough to fix in time.

Maybe admin could just add a couple of minutes?