Are any of us good people

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homwardbound

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What is an action? It is a product of first motivation, rumination, intent, and then movement; either physical or verbal. What is goodness; well if God gives commands, what is their motivation? What are the thoughts of Godliness? What are the intents therein that lead to the action? Because only by discovering the motivations, the thoughts and the intents supposed to lay behind Godly/good actions, can we truly understand Godliness and goodness itself. The restriction of action by rules and nothing else is the shallowest form of morality, but with introspection we can expound that morality into discovering the character of 'Godliness' or of 'goodness', thereby rendering laws without character obsolete. Here I'd ask;

What is my motivation? Are my thoughts of peace, harmony, or of discord? Of hatred or not? What is my intent? Action comes last, after motivation, thoughts and intent. A vindictive desire, is not a good motivation, for instance. Who wants to be a victim of vindictiveness? Thoughts of causing suffering, are not good thoughts, for instance; who wants to suffer? Intentions to violate, are not good intentions, for instance; who wants to be violated?

It's a case of thinking, and consideration.
simple terms, passion is of flesh nature
Compassion is God's nature that God imputes to his children, this new nature is Cor. 13:4-7 imputed into the believer
 

vic1980

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Galatians 3:22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.


Thank God for His mercy amen.
 
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oldthennew

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#23
our definition of 'good/goodness' before Christ was easy =
anyone who treated me with kindness or one who did an
act of compassion, ones who lived peacefully and
respected others, things along this line.

our definition of 'good/goodness' after Christ, is easy =
we are to look upon His goodness and compare ourselves
and then an overwhelming desire to be like Him, to walk
as He walked, to think as He thinks, and to love as He loves
becomes our whole, new life/world.

does He think we are good when our heart's desire is only
to be like Him, only to serve, only to love as He does?
 

homwardbound

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our definition of 'good/goodness' before Christ was easy =
anyone who treated me with kindness or one who did an
act of compassion, ones who lived peacefully and
respected others, things along this line.

our definition of 'good/goodness' after Christ, is easy =
we are to look upon His goodness and compare ourselves
and then an overwhelming desire to be like Him, to walk
as He walked, to think as He thinks, and to love as He loves
becomes our whole, new life/world.

does He think we are good when our heart's desire is only
to be like Him, only to serve, only to love as He does?
Colossians 1:21-23New International Version (NIV)[SUP]21 [/SUP]Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of[SUP][a][/SUP] your evil behavior. [SUP]22 [/SUP]But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation— [SUP]23 [/SUP]if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.
 
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oldthennew

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#25
homwardbound,

thanks for the reply, a thoughtful response.

after Christ, it seems as though that New Something
grabs us by our heart-strings and compels us to want to
share and embrace others with what we have been given
and shown.

sometimes an exaggerated zealousness can overtake us
and we may sometimes embarrass others, but on the whole
the positive responses to our New Mantle presenting itself in our
New found Love is infectious and we experience many
different and wonderful child-like discoveries.
AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!

look-out-world, here we come, is bursting from our hearts,
and into our brand-new, eye-opening world we go,
hand-in-hand with our brand-new Partner who
has filled us with a hope, trust and faith that
we had never known existed before.

many failures a long the way? yes, but in our new found
awe and humility, taken and used towards
our future perfection.
Praise God!!!
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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#27
LOLOL: LiveLeak.com - Andrew Klavan: How To Speak Leftist

I suppose at some point I'll have to give equal treatment to the neo-cons in the GOP who want to spend ten trillion dollars to drop bombs all over the planet to "create jobs" starting WWIII and ending all life on the planet. It's just that the are being beneficial fools by tripping up Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc...'s designs to destroy the Constitution, bring in a hundred million poor illegal gangbangers, and push the U.S. into debt so catastrophic all social services come to a screeching halt as half the federal budget is paid out in the form on interest payments on the skyrocketed national debt. But when they come back in power I've got my eye on them too.
 
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homwardbound

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2012
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#28
homwardbound,

thanks for the reply, a thoughtful response.

after Christ, it seems as though that New Something
grabs us by our heart-strings and compels us to want to
share and embrace others with what we have been given
and shown.

sometimes an exaggerated zealousness can overtake us
and we may sometimes embarrass others, but on the whole
the positive responses to our New Mantle presenting itself in our
New found Love is infectious and we experience many
different and wonderful child-like discoveries.
AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!

look-out-world, here we come, is bursting from our hearts,
and into our brand-new, eye-opening world we go,
hand-in-hand with our brand-new Partner who
has filled us with a hope, trust and faith that
we had never known existed before.

many failures a long the way? yes, but in our new found
awe and humility, taken and used towards
our future perfection.
Praise God!!!
Brother, we are justified by the death, not yet sanctified, justified to be sanctified

Justified= as if we never sinned
Sanctified= given the gift of new life in Spirit and truth by Father once we agree and thank Father and Christ for doing what Christ did for us, since no man could ever be perfect on his own accord

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in while we were yet sinners , Christ died for us
Romans 8:34
Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
2 Corinthians 5:14
For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: