BETHLEHEM EPHRATAH

[wakeup]

MICAH5:1--15.

Now gather thy self in troops,O dauhter of troops: They shall smite the judge of israel(jesus) with a rod upon the cheek.

2. But thou,bethlehem ephratah though thou be little among the thousands of judah,yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be RULER in israel; (in the kingdom).
Whose going forth have been from of OLD, FROM EVERLASTING.

3. THerefore WILL HE GIVE THEM UP, UNTILL THE TIME THAT SHE WHICH TRAVAILETH hath BROUGHT FORTH: THEN THE REMNANT OF HIS BRETHREN SHALL RETURN unto the children of israel.

4. And he shall stand and FEED in the strenght of the lord,in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God; AND THEY SHALL ABIDE; for now shall he be great unto THE ENDS OF THE EARTH.

5. And this man SHALL BE THE PEACE,when the ASSYRIAN shall come in to our land:
and when he shall tread in our palaces,then shall we raise against him seven shepherds,and eight principal men.

6. And they shall waste the land of ASSYRIA with the sword,and the land of NIMROD in the entrance thereof: thus SHALL HE DELIVER US FROM THE ASSYRIAN,when he come into our land,and when he treadeth within our borders.

7. And the remnant of jacob SHALL be in the mids of many people as a dew from the Lord, as the shower upon the grass,that tarrieth not for men, nor waiteth for the sons of men.

8. And the REMNANT OF JACOB shall be among the GENTILES in the mids of many people, AS A LION AMONGST THE BEAST OF THE FOREST,as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: Who,if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

9. Thine hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off.

10. And it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY,saith the Lord, that i will cut off thy horses out of the mids of thee,and i will destroy thy chariots:

11. And i will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy strong holds:

12. And i will cut off witchcraft out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more SOOTHSAYERS:

13. Thy graven images also will i cut off, and thy standing images out of the mids of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands.( technology,and science)

14. And i will pluckup thy groves out of the mids of thee: SO WILL I DESTROY thy cities.

15. And i will execute vengeance in anger and fury, upon the HEATHEN, SUCH AS THEY HAVE NOT HEARD.

''WAKEUP''.

 

[jonathanbchristian]

Beautiful work!!! I like this thread.

 

[zone]

another historcal narrative in the manner of isaiah and hosea?

and what?

you want this to be future?

how come you skip over the ultimate Fulfillment of Jesus Christ at the First Advent?

and yes, the remnant receiving salvation right up to the Second.

why all the CAPS and UNDERLINING?

if you have found hidden information in Micah why not just tell us what it is? our houses aren't swept clean enough? not enough seeking?

HOW COME YOU NEVER SPEND TIME IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WAKEUP?

i know this'll make you shake your head in dismay wakeup, but for any who care to place micah in his historical context and know what his ministry was:

Date

Micah prophesied sometime between 750 and 686 b.c. during the reigns of Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah (1:1; Jer 26:18). He was therefore a contemporary of Isaiah (see Isa 1:1) and Hosea (see Hos 1:1). Micah predicted the fall of Samaria (1:6), which took place in 722–721. This would place his early ministry in the reigns of Jotham (750–732) and Ahaz (735–715). (The reigns of Jotham and Ahaz overlapped.) Micah’s message reflects social conditions prior to the religious reforms under Hezekiah (715–686). Micah’s ministry most likely fell within the period 735–700.
If Micah himself wrote out his messages, the date for the earliest written form of his work would be c. 700. If one of his disciples arranged his messages in their present form, the date would be the early seventh century b.c. If a later editor collected and arranged his messages, the date would still need to be early enough in the seventh century to allow time for his prophecy of Jerusalem’s fall (3:12) to become familiar enough to be quoted in Jer 26:18 c. 608.

Historical Background

The background of the book is the same as that found in the earlier portions of Isaiah, though Micah does not exhibit the same knowledge of Jerusalem’s political life as Isaiah does. Perhaps this is because he, like Amos, was from a village in Judah. The relevant Biblical texts covering this period (see Date above) are 2Ki 15:32—20:21; 2Ch 27–32; Isa 7; 20; 36–39.
Israel was in an apostate condition. Micah predicted the fall of her capital, Samaria (1:5–7), and also foretold the inevitable desolation of Judah (1:9–16).
Several significant historical events occurred during this period:

1. In 734–732 b.c. Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria led a military campaign against Aram (Syria), Philistia and parts of Israel and Judah. Ashkelon and Gaza were defeated. Judah, Ammon, Edom and Moab paid tribute to the Assyrian king, but Israel did not fare as well. According to 2Ki 15:29 the northern kingdom lost most of its territory, including all of Gilead and much of Galilee. Damascus fell in 732 and was annexed to the Assyrian empire.
2. In 722–721 Samaria fell, and the northern kingdom of Israel was conquered by Assyria.
3. In 712 King Sargon II of Assyria captured Ashdod (see Isa 20:1 and note).
4. In 701 Judah joined a revolt against Assyria and was overrun by King Sennacherib and his army, though Jerusalem was spared.

Literary Analysis

1. Structure. The book’s collection of short prophetic messages is organized in a pattern of three cycles of judgment and salvation/deliverance oracles (see Outline below).
2. Forms. The book contains at least seven different literary forms. These are identified in the notes on the individual units.
3. Style. Micah’s style is similar to that of Isaiah. Both prophets use vigorous language and many figures of speech (see, e.g., Mic 1:4–5,7; 2:4,6,11; 3:2–3; 4:3–4,12–13; 5:1); both show great tenderness in threatening punishment and in promising justice. Micah makes frequent use of plays on words, 1:10–15 (see NIV text notes there) being the classic example.

Theme and Message

As the Outline shows, Micah’s message alternates between oracles of doom and oracles of hope—in terms of Ro 11:22, between God’s “sternness” and his “kindness.” The theme is divine judgment and deliverance. Micah also stresses that God hates idolatry, injustice, rebellion and empty ritualism (see 3:8 and note), but delights in pardoning the penitent (see 7:18–19 and notes). Finally, the prophet declares that Zion will have greater glory in the future than ever before (see, e.g., 4:1–2 and note on 4:1–5). The Davidic kingdom, though it will seem to come to an end, will reach greater heights through the coming Messianic deliverer (see note on 5:1–4). Key passages include 1:2; 3:8–12; 5:1–4; 6:2,6–8; 7:18–20.

• Title (1:1)
• First Cycle: Judgment and Restoration of Israel and Judah (1:2—2:13)
  • Judgment on Israel and Judah (1:2—2:11)
    1. The predicted destruction (1:2–7)
    2. Lamentation over the destruction (1:8–16)
    3. Woe to oppressive land-grabbers (2:1–5)
    4. Condemnation of the wealthy wicked and their false prophets (2:6–11)
  • Restoration of a Remnant (2:12–13)
• Second Cycle: Indictment of Judah’s Leaders, but Future Hope for God’s People (chs. 3–5)
  • Indictment of Judah’s Leaders (ch. 3)
    1. Guilty civil leaders (3:1–4)
    2. False prophets of peace and Micah’s response (3:5–8)
    3. Corrupt leaders and Zion’s fall (3:9–12)
  • Future Hope for God’s People (chs. 4–5)
    1. The coming kingdom (4:1–5)
    2. Restoration of a remnant and Zion (4:6–8)
    3. From distress to deliverance (4:9–10)
    4. From siege to victory (4:11–13)
    5. From helpless ruler to ideal king (5:1–4)
    6. The ideal king delivers his people (5:5–6)
    7. The remnant among the nations (5:7–9)
    8. Obliteration of military might and pagan worship (5:10–15)
• Third Cycle: God’s Charges against His People and the Ultimate Triumph of His Kingdom (chs. 6–7)
  • God’s Charges against His People (6:1—7:7)
    1. A divine covenant lawsuit (6:1–8)
    2. Further charges and the sentence (6:9–16)
    3. A lament over a decadent society (7:1–7)
  • The Ultimate Triumph of God’s Kingdom (7:8–20)
    1. An expression of trust (7:8–10)
    2. A promise of restoration (7:11–13)
    3. A prayer, the Lord’s answer, and the response (7:14–17)
    4. A hymn of praise to God (7:18–20)

 

[wakeup]

another historcal narrative in the manner of isaiah and hosea?

and what?

you want this to be future?

how come you skip over the ultimate Fulfillment of Jesus Christ at the First Advent?

and yes, the remnant receiving salvation right up to the Second.

why all the CAPS and UNDERLINING?

if you have found hidden information in Micah why not just tell us what it is? our houses aren't swept clean enough? not enough seeking?

HOW COME YOU NEVER SPEND TIME IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WAKEUP?

i know this'll make you shake your head in dismay wakeup, but for any who care to place micah in his historical context and know what his ministry was:

Date

Micah prophesied sometime between 750 and 686 b.c. during the reigns of Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah (1:1; Jer 26:18). He was therefore a contemporary of Isaiah (see Isa 1:1) and Hosea (see Hos 1:1). Micah predicted the fall of Samaria (1:6), which took place in 722–721. This would place his early ministry in the reigns of Jotham (750–732) and Ahaz (735–715). (The reigns of Jotham and Ahaz overlapped.) Micah’s message reflects social conditions prior to the religious reforms under Hezekiah (715–686). Micah’s ministry most likely fell within the period 735–700.
If Micah himself wrote out his messages, the date for the earliest written form of his work would be c. 700. If one of his disciples arranged his messages in their present form, the date would be the early seventh century b.c. If a later editor collected and arranged his messages, the date would still need to be early enough in the seventh century to allow time for his prophecy of Jerusalem’s fall (3:12) to become familiar enough to be quoted in Jer 26:18 c. 608.

Historical Background

The background of the book is the same as that found in the earlier portions of Isaiah, though Micah does not exhibit the same knowledge of Jerusalem’s political life as Isaiah does. Perhaps this is because he, like Amos, was from a village in Judah. The relevant Biblical texts covering this period (see Date above) are 2Ki 15:32—20:21; 2Ch 27–32; Isa 7; 20; 36–39.
Israel was in an apostate condition. Micah predicted the fall of her capital, Samaria (1:5–7), and also foretold the inevitable desolation of Judah (1:9–16).

Several significant historical events occurred during this period:

1. In 734–732 b.c. Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria led a military campaign against Aram (Syria), Philistia and parts of Israel and Judah. Ashkelon and Gaza were defeated. Judah, Ammon, Edom and Moab paid tribute to the Assyrian king, but Israel did not fare as well. According to 2Ki 15:29 the northern kingdom lost most of its territory, including all of Gilead and much of Galilee. Damascus fell in 732 and was annexed to the Assyrian empire.
2. In 722–721 Samaria fell, and the northern kingdom of Israel was conquered by Assyria.
3. In 712 King Sargon II of Assyria captured Ashdod (see Isa 20:1 and note).
4. In 701 Judah joined a revolt against Assyria and was overrun by King Sennacherib and his army, though Jerusalem was spared.

Literary Analysis

1. Structure. The book’s collection of short prophetic messages is organized in a pattern of three cycles of judgment and salvation/deliverance oracles (see Outline below).
2. Forms. The book contains at least seven different literary forms. These are identified in the notes on the individual units.
3. Style. Micah’s style is similar to that of Isaiah. Both prophets use vigorous language and many figures of speech (see, e.g., Mic 1:4–5,7; 2:4,6,11; 3:2–3; 4:3–4,12–13; 5:1); both show great tenderness in threatening punishment and in promising justice. Micah makes frequent use of plays on words, 1:10–15 (see NIV text notes there) being the classic example.

Theme and Message

As the Outline shows, Micah’s message alternates between oracles of doom and oracles of hope—in terms of Ro 11:22, between God’s “sternness” and his “kindness.” The theme is divine judgment and deliverance. Micah also stresses that God hates idolatry, injustice, rebellion and empty ritualism (see 3:8 and note), but delights in pardoning the penitent (see 7:18–19 and notes). Finally, the prophet declares that Zion will have greater glory in the future than ever before (see, e.g., 4:1–2 and note on 4:1–5). The Davidic kingdom, though it will seem to come to an end, will reach greater heights through the coming Messianic deliverer (see note on 5:1–4). Key passages include 1:2; 3:8–12; 5:1–4; 6:2,6–8; 7:18–20.

• Title (1:1)
• First Cycle: Judgment and Restoration of Israel and Judah (1:2—2:13)
  • Judgment on Israel and Judah (1:2—2:11)
    1. The predicted destruction (1:2–7)
    2. Lamentation over the destruction (1:8–16)
    3. Woe to oppressive land-grabbers (2:1–5)
    4. Condemnation of the wealthy wicked and their false prophets (2:6–11)
  • Restoration of a Remnant (2:12–13)
• Second Cycle: Indictment of Judah’s Leaders, but Future Hope for God’s People (chs. 3–5)
  • Indictment of Judah’s Leaders (ch. 3)
    1. Guilty civil leaders (3:1–4)
    2. False prophets of peace and Micah’s response (3:5–8)
    3. Corrupt leaders and Zion’s fall (3:9–12)
  • Future Hope for God’s People (chs. 4–5)
    1. The coming kingdom (4:1–5)
    2. Restoration of a remnant and Zion (4:6–8)
    3. From distress to deliverance (4:9–10)
    4. From siege to victory (4:11–13)
    5. From helpless ruler to ideal king (5:1–4)
    6. The ideal king delivers his people (5:5–6)
    7. The remnant among the nations (5:7–9)
    8. Obliteration of military might and pagan worship (5:10–15)
• Third Cycle: God’s Charges against His People and the Ultimate Triumph of His Kingdom (chs. 6–7)
  • God’s Charges against His People (6:1—7:7)
    1. A divine covenant lawsuit (6:1–8)
    2. Further charges and the sentence (6:9–16)
    3. A lament over a decadent society (7:1–7)
  • The Ultimate Triumph of God’s Kingdom (7:8–20)
    1. An expression of trust (7:8–10)
    2. A promise of restoration (7:11–13)
    3. A prayer, the Lord’s answer, and the response (7:14–17)
    4. A hymn of praise to God (7:18–20)

You obviously have not been given The skill to descern prophesies,but you are entitled,to your opinion.

 

[Meridoc]

You obviously have not been given The skill to descern prophesies,but you are entitled,to your opinion.

Those that think they have secret information understandable to only a select few are generally deceived, or at the very least guilty of being prideful. Everyone that disagrees with you is not automatically wrong, unless you are God and perfect.

 

[Devolution]

Those that think they have secret information understandable to only a select few are generally deceived, or at the very least guilty of being prideful. Everyone that disagrees with you is not automatically wrong, unless you are God and perfect.

Disagreeing is fine, its all the smug comments and prideful attitudes that have a very Spirit of this world smell...maybe this is why so many are not ALLOWED to see the obvious in Gods prophecies that are still to this day unfulfilled...MOCKING.

 

[Meridoc]

Disagreeing is fine, its all the smug comments and prideful attitudes that have a very Spirit of this world smell...maybe this is why so many are not ALLOWED to see the obvious in Gods prophecies that are still to this day unfulfilled...MOCKING.

I don't disagree that often this is the case, but then people should counterpoint why their side is truth, not just say:
"You obviously have not been given The skill to descern prophesies,but you are entitled,to your opinion."

Which is basically the same as saying:
"I am skillful and smart and you are dumb, but you are entitled to your own opinion which is obviously wrong."

 

[zone]

Disagreeing is fine, its all the smug comments and prideful attitudes that have a very Spirit of this world smell...maybe this is why so many are not ALLOWED to see the obvious in Gods prophecies that are still to this day unfulfilled...MOCKING.

hi devo:
so because i call your crew to task for the gnosis game, God doesn't allow me to see the obvious in the "prophecies"?

you think when i mock the "the 3 of us have been given a special insight that no one else has, but we never quite get around to saying what that is"...it's mocking God?....let me speak plainly - people who handle the scriptures so recklessly while pretending to have received hidden knowledge due to their mental efforts is mocking God (if those people just stopped that game and got real and stopped persecuting the church they'd learn way more devo).

so your remark here is actually true: "maybe this is why so many are not ALLOWED to see the obvious in Gods prophecies that are still to this day unfulfilled...MOCKING"

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't disagree that often this is the case, but then people should counterpoint why their side is truth, not just say:
"You obviously have not been given The skill to descern prophesies,but you are entitled,to your opinion."

Which is basically the same as saying:
"I am skillful and smart and you are dumb, but you are entitled to your own opinion which is obviously wrong."

Agree here. How can one say you are wrong with no proof. And just ad hominem attacks such as these? Humility is lacking greatly. Even if the person is right. To just use this is an excuse to say someone else is wrong is arrogant. And does not show the love of God. And will just turn people off.

 

[Devolution]

I don't disagree that often this is the case, but then people should counterpoint why their side is truth, not just say:
"You obviously have not been given The skill to descern prophesies,but you are entitled,to your opinion."

Which is basically the same as saying:
"I am skillful and smart and you are dumb, but you are entitled to your own opinion which is obviously wrong."

That is because you overlook, or are unaware of the THOUSANDS of INSULTS and MOCKINGS and ACCUSATIONS of generally unchristian behavior that person you backed up has fired off at him. THOUSANDS. And that isn't wrong? What wakeup said is NOTHING in comparison. Nothing.

What does Paul say?
2 Corinthians 11:29> Who is weak, and i am not weak? Who is OFFENDED, and I BURN NOT?

What Wakeup posted has key words and statements that link to other scriptures. Seek them out and your opinion might change.

 

[zone]

That is because you overlook, or are unaware of the THOUSANDS of INSULTS and MOCKINGS and ACCUSATIONS of generally unchristian behavior that person you backed up has fired off at him. THOUSANDS. And that isn't wrong? What wakeup said is NOTHING in comparison. Nothing.

What does Paul say?
2 Corinthians 11:29> Who is weak, and i am not weak? Who is OFFENDED, and I BURN NOT?

What Wakeup posted has key words and statements that link to other scriptures. Seek them out and your opinion might change.

hi devo.
you got your feelings hurt because of your false teachings. its not "unchristian" to expose false teachers devo....you guys claim that's what you do.

did you use a calculator to count up the "insults", or is this more of your factual precision?

see, you can't even make a post to meridoc (who isn't defending me btw) to explain or defend wakeup without repeating the very same thing you're called out on:

What Wakeup posted has key words and statements that link to other scriptures. Seek them out and your opinion might change.

speaking of "called-out": how many TO ZONE call-out threads as your crew used on me?

stop teaching false doctrine and you won't get hassled.

 

[Devolution]

Micah 5:3> Therefore He will give them up (Israel)......

Matthew 21:43> Therefore say I unto you (Israel), the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Sure sounds like Israel was GIVEN UP that day..

Micah 5:3> ......UNTIL the TIME that SHE which TRAVAILETH hath BROUGHT FORTH....

Isaiah 66
7> Before SHE travailed, she brought forth, before HER pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
8> Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? For AS SOON AS ZION TRAVAILED, SHE BROUGHT FORTH HER CHILDREN..

Matthew 23
38> Behold, your HOUSE is left unto you DESOLATE. (Israel)..GIVEN UP (Micah)
39> For I say unto you (Israel), Ye shall NOT SEE ME HENCEFORTH, TILL ye shall say, Blessed is He that cometh in the Name of the Lord.

Does Israel love Jesus?
Go preach Him to their leaders and find out.
Ever heard it said: I will CHOOSE Jerusalem AGAIN?
Ever hear: I will DWELL AMONGST them.
Ever hear: I will REMOVE ALL THINGS THAT OFFEND OUT OF JERUSALEM?
Ever heard it said: THEN they will worship Me in TRUTH? FOR EVER and never again BE REMOVED?
Don't those who DENY JESUS OFFEND?
Don't those who worship another God dwell there too?
Isn't THAT offensive ALSO?
Does Israel preach His covenant (truth)?
So WHY are they STILL THERE TODAY?
Why? Because it has not HAPPENED YET. SIMPLE.