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Anyone who needs 40 minutes to try and explain John 3:16 in Calvinistic context is obviously suss. Calvin wasn't even born when John 3:16 was written. !
It's a shame people follow after mortal men rather than God:
Ti 4:3 For a time will be when they will not endure sound doctrine, but they will heap up teachers to themselves according to their own lusts, tickling the ear.
Ti 4:3 describes Calvinists perfectly.
It's a shame people follow after mortal men rather than God:
Ti 4:3 For a time will be when they will not endure sound doctrine, but they will heap up teachers to themselves according to their own lusts, tickling the ear.
Ti 4:3 describes Calvinists perfectly.
every word is an insiration of God, if it is in the Bible it is inspired by God doesn't matter if it is red letter or not if Jesus quoted John 3:16 or John said that this is what Jesus said WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE ????????? NONE. GOD INSPIRED IT!!!!!
the dude is attacking the word of God and saying he is right and there is error in the word, if you have to attack the word of God to prove your point then your point is not Biblical. but rather anti-biblical. so if it goes against the word of God why would a christian support it and encourage others to.
the dude is attacking the word of God and saying he is right and there is error in the word, if you have to attack the word of God to prove your point then your point is not Biblical. but rather anti-biblical. so if it goes against the word of God why would a christian support it and encourage others to.
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I'm sorry Thaddaeus but you said you only watched 5 mins of this video.....I watched and listened to the whole thing and I have to say that in no way was he attacking the Word at all, what he was attacking is the way the Word has been traditionally interpreted. I must admit that what he was trying to get across did make sense. You say "every word is an inspiration of God, if it is in the Bible it is inspired by God"...that is true BUT...think about it for a second, the original writings had no punctuation and certain original words have been translated to suite our traditional language, that in itself could be at fault could it not?...I ask you sincerely to listen to the whole clip without any preconceived judgement on the speaker but focus on what is actually been said, digest it truthfully and honestly then reply to my post and do not be swayed if your view differs from your original thoughts please.
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Hello all, I am David John and this is actually my first reply to a thread.
Here is the real issue surrounding John 3:16 passage. 1st the red letter or not truly doesn't have much significance. However, in the passages we know to be the words of our Lord, He never actually talked this way... "For God so Loved the world......" Generally He would begin with "I tell you"...etc.
To better understand John 3:16, we must first take a look at 1 John 2:15.."[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him." We are told NOT to love the world, but according to most, John 3:16 says God loves the world.
Herein lies the problem. John 3:16 does NOT say "For God so LOVES the world", but instead says (past tense) "For God so LOVED the world". Now we must also understand what the word "world" is in the Greek text. World in this passage, unlike many appearances of the word elsewhere was mistranslated world when it should have been Greek (Aeon) meaning age, in this passage it is the Greek word Kosmos, which means (God's Orderly Arrangement). So the passage would mean thus.. For God so LOVED (past tense) His orderly arrangement, that HE gave His only Begotten Son. Therefore this verse, misused widely today, does not say that God LOVES the world and absolutely every person, but the context is regarding His original order and arrangement.
Be blessed all and May God bless the hearing/reading of His Word.
In Christ,
David (NewJerusalem)
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Here is the real issue surrounding John 3:16 passage. 1st the red letter or not truly doesn't have much significance. However, in the passages we know to be the words of our Lord, He never actually talked this way... "For God so Loved the world......" Generally He would begin with "I tell you"...etc.
To better understand John 3:16, we must first take a look at 1 John 2:15.."[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him." We are told NOT to love the world, but according to most, John 3:16 says God loves the world.
Herein lies the problem. John 3:16 does NOT say "For God so LOVES the world", but instead says (past tense) "For God so LOVED the world". Now we must also understand what the word "world" is in the Greek text. World in this passage, unlike many appearances of the word elsewhere was mistranslated world when it should have been Greek (Aeon) meaning age, in this passage it is the Greek word Kosmos, which means (God's Orderly Arrangement). So the passage would mean thus.. For God so LOVED (past tense) His orderly arrangement, that HE gave His only Begotten Son. Therefore this verse, misused widely today, does not say that God LOVES the world and absolutely every person, but the context is regarding His original order and arrangement.
Be blessed all and May God bless the hearing/reading of His Word.
In Christ,
David (NewJerusalem)
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John 3:16
For God so loved the world that
......................He gave
...........His Only begotten
................................Son, that whoever
................................................................................believes in Him
........................................should not Perish but have
.........................................................................Everlasting
................................................................................................Life.
For God so loved the world that
......................He gave
...........His Only begotten
................................Son, that whoever
................................................................................believes in Him
........................................should not Perish but have
.........................................................................Everlasting
................................................................................................Life.
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