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If you don't turn from your sin then you are not truly repentant.
If you stumble and sin and God places it in your heart to repent and brings you to godly sorrow through His chastening and mercy then HE saves you, but you still have submit to GOD and HIS Lordship and HIS will.
Oh I see his point now
"A changed life is the FRUIT of genuine repentance; and not a part of the ROOT of saving-faith."
If you stumble and sin and God places it in your heart to repent and brings you to godly sorrow through His chastening and mercy then HE saves you, but you still have submit to GOD and HIS Lordship and HIS will.
Oh I see his point now
"A changed life is the FRUIT of genuine repentance; and not a part of the ROOT of saving-faith."
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You mean that "worrying" about if you're saved or not saved is actually a sign that you are saved?!
Of course saved souls question themselves at times, seeing we miss the mark now and then. A saved sinner knows that he is guilty even when departing in the very least from God's holy and just standard, which is His law (it is just a matter of how many times did you transgress the law of God today). However a saved sinner also knows that the only thing that has him in right standing before God, and thus counts him as innocent, is the atonement blood and imputed righteousness of Christ. A saved sinner knows that he cannot do "whatever", he also knows that God will keep from such.
Of course saved souls question themselves at times, seeing we miss the mark now and then. A saved sinner knows that he is guilty even when departing in the very least from God's holy and just standard, which is His law (it is just a matter of how many times did you transgress the law of God today). However a saved sinner also knows that the only thing that has him in right standing before God, and thus counts him as innocent, is the atonement blood and imputed righteousness of Christ. A saved sinner knows that he cannot do "whatever", he also knows that God will keep from such.
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All of those that are eternally saved, do, at times, disobey God's commandments, but they don't lose their eternal salvation, thats why God chastens those that he loves, to bring them unto repentance. When you are eternally saved you do good works because you want to serve and glorify God, not because you think they are a requirement for eternal life as some of his elect do.
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Actually just because faith is a fruit of the Spirit, much like peace is a fruit of the Spirit does not mean that you must have the Spirit in order to have these things. For example two carnal people can have peace with each other and not have the Spirit. People can experience joy without having the Spirit. I mean, it's a nice attempt to understand what Paul meant here but unfortunately he did not add that into Romans 10:17. Perhaps if you were the author of Romans you would've worded it differently, but, in reality Paul never said what you are claiming.
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And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. (Ephesians 2:1-9)
Now, would Paul really need to point out that grace was not of ourselves?
No - faith is not of ourselves - it is a gift of God. He gave it to us while we were dead in sins.
"I was blind, but now I see!"
When you're blind, can you make yourself see? No, God must put His grace upon you first.
In the same way, when you're dead you can't make yourself alive - Christ must make you alive. God must make you alive in Christ.
Now, would Paul really need to point out that grace was not of ourselves?
No - faith is not of ourselves - it is a gift of God. He gave it to us while we were dead in sins.
"I was blind, but now I see!"
When you're blind, can you make yourself see? No, God must put His grace upon you first.
In the same way, when you're dead you can't make yourself alive - Christ must make you alive. God must make you alive in Christ.
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