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Hello prove-all,
Being that it is the spirit/soul that is in Hades, I imagine that there are many in there and they keep pouring in daily and will continue to do so until the great white throne judgment. From your question above, your thinking of the physical body, but remember, they had already died, so they were there in spirit. Also, the meaning is that the angel took Lazarus to Abraham's side.
Being that it is the spirit/soul that is in Hades, I imagine that there are many in there and they keep pouring in daily and will continue to do so until the great white throne judgment. From your question above, your thinking of the physical body, but remember, they had already died, so they were there in spirit. Also, the meaning is that the angel took Lazarus to Abraham's side.
10But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
11As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
12So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
13O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
14If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
till my change come.
11As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
12So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more,
they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
13O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret,
until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
14If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
till my change come.
Blessings to you pottersclay,
Yes, Purgatory is a Roman Catholic false teaching. They believe that all saved Catholic's must spend some time in purgatory where they will be refined by fire for any sins that were not absolved by a priest during life. This of course does not agree with the word of God. Scripture states that when a person comes to Christ they are credited with righteousness and there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. However, the existence of Hades is scriptural, which is a place within the heart of the earth where the spirit/soul of the unrighteous dead go at the time of death. The spirits of the dead have been accumulating in Hades from the beginning of history and will continue to do so all the way through to the end of the millennial period. Once the millennial period is over, then the spirits/souls of the unrighteous dead will be resurrected out of death and Hades to stand before God at the great white throne judgment (Rev.20:11-15) where they will be accountable for every sin, every action and every idle word. Hades is not Purgatory in that, once a person finds themselves there, there is no second change, only judgment. For some understanding regarding Hades read Luke 16:19-31.
Yes, Purgatory is a Roman Catholic false teaching. They believe that all saved Catholic's must spend some time in purgatory where they will be refined by fire for any sins that were not absolved by a priest during life. This of course does not agree with the word of God. Scripture states that when a person comes to Christ they are credited with righteousness and there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. However, the existence of Hades is scriptural, which is a place within the heart of the earth where the spirit/soul of the unrighteous dead go at the time of death. The spirits of the dead have been accumulating in Hades from the beginning of history and will continue to do so all the way through to the end of the millennial period. Once the millennial period is over, then the spirits/souls of the unrighteous dead will be resurrected out of death and Hades to stand before God at the great white throne judgment (Rev.20:11-15) where they will be accountable for every sin, every action and every idle word. Hades is not Purgatory in that, once a person finds themselves there, there is no second change, only judgment. For some understanding regarding Hades read Luke 16:19-31.
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Greetings PuererInHeart,
Actually, according to scripture, when a believer dies there spirit/soul departs from the body and goes immediately to be in the presence of the Lord, where at the time of the resurrection Jesus will bring them back with him where their bodies will be resurrected as those immortal and glorified bodies and the will be reunited with them. Immediately after that those believers who are still alive will be transformed into their immortal and glorified bodies and will be caught up with those who will have just been resurrected to meet the Lord in the air (Phil.1:23, 1 Thes.4:13-18,1 cor.15:51-53)
Actually, according to scripture, when a believer dies there spirit/soul departs from the body and goes immediately to be in the presence of the Lord, where at the time of the resurrection Jesus will bring them back with him where their bodies will be resurrected as those immortal and glorified bodies and the will be reunited with them. Immediately after that those believers who are still alive will be transformed into their immortal and glorified bodies and will be caught up with those who will have just been resurrected to meet the Lord in the air (Phil.1:23, 1 Thes.4:13-18,1 cor.15:51-53)
Sorry bro, you're just wrong about hell. It is a place, in... the heavenly.
In the KJV Bible, the word in the NT for "hell" can be one of either 3 different Greek words...
Greek:
geena -
refers to the future "lake of fire" event of Rev.20. It comes from the Hebrew valley of Hinnom about a perpetual burning garbage pit outside the walls of Jerusalem. It was also a place of child sacrifice, burning children in the fire to false gods, something which Judah fell into at one time per Jeremiah 19.
haides -
Greek Hades, the idea of the place of departed souls, from Greek tradition. The Greek language had no other words available for the concept of the abode of the wicked in the heavenly dimension, so they had to use the Greek version, so don't get hung up on Greek traditions of the word haides.
tartaroo -
from Tartaros, the deepest abyss of Hades
What this means is one must... go into the NT manuscripts to find out just which idea is being spoken of. Acts 2:31 ought to be a good example, since it's speaking of how Christ's body was not left in hell, which is the Greek word for Hades and not geena (lake of fire).
In the KJV Bible, the word in the NT for "hell" can be one of either 3 different Greek words...
Greek:
geena -
refers to the future "lake of fire" event of Rev.20. It comes from the Hebrew valley of Hinnom about a perpetual burning garbage pit outside the walls of Jerusalem. It was also a place of child sacrifice, burning children in the fire to false gods, something which Judah fell into at one time per Jeremiah 19.
haides -
Greek Hades, the idea of the place of departed souls, from Greek tradition. The Greek language had no other words available for the concept of the abode of the wicked in the heavenly dimension, so they had to use the Greek version, so don't get hung up on Greek traditions of the word haides.
tartaroo -
from Tartaros, the deepest abyss of Hades
What this means is one must... go into the NT manuscripts to find out just which idea is being spoken of. Acts 2:31 ought to be a good example, since it's speaking of how Christ's body was not left in hell, which is the Greek word for Hades and not geena (lake of fire).
It certainly does. Even more so in examples like 1 Peter 3 with Jesus after His resurrection going to the prison pit and preaching to the spirits in prison, which was a prophecy from OT Isaiah 42.
1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
KJV
1 Peter 4:5-6
5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
KJV
1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
KJV
1 Peter 4:5-6
5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
KJV
So our Lord Jesus lied to the malefactor crucified with Him that believed on Him?
Luke 23:42-43
42 And he said unto Jesus, "Lord, remember me when Thou comest into Thy kingdom."
43 And Jesus said unto him, "Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with Me in paradise."
KJV
And the man which Apostle Paul witnessed of in 2 Cor.12 really didn't go to a place in the heavenly called "paradise" either, since no such place actually exists???
2 Cor 12:2-4
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
KJV
What our Lord Jesus gave in Luke 16 about Lazarus and the rich man may very well have been about fictional characters, but that doesn't mean the place and objects in the heavenly He described was fictitious.
Luke 23:42-43
42 And he said unto Jesus, "Lord, remember me when Thou comest into Thy kingdom."
43 And Jesus said unto him, "Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with Me in paradise."
KJV
And the man which Apostle Paul witnessed of in 2 Cor.12 really didn't go to a place in the heavenly called "paradise" either, since no such place actually exists???
2 Cor 12:2-4
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
KJV
What our Lord Jesus gave in Luke 16 about Lazarus and the rich man may very well have been about fictional characters, but that doesn't mean the place and objects in the heavenly He described was fictitious.