Is it a sin to use a new version? By Bryan Denlinger

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jimmydiggs

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ChosenbyHim said:
Did the English and Reformation Bibles prior to the Authorized Version of 1611 ever attack Jesus' Deity?

Did these Bibles ever give the Lord Jesus Christ an origin like most modern versions do in Micah 5:2?

Did they ever attack the Blood Atonement?

Did they ever falsely claim that God can be deceived like the NASB does in Psalm 78:36?
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Can't say that I know, I've not read any of them.


Besides, you're the one posting videos about how it's a sin to not use the KJV. I think you should modify your message, because it would seem the Apostle Paul was in unrepetent sent, given that he wasn't using the KJV. Just sayin' man, fix your speel.
 
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jimmydiggs said:
Can't say that I know, I've not read any of them.


Besides, you're the one posting videos about how it's a sin to not use the KJV. I think you should modify your message, because it would seem the Apostle Paul was in unrepetent sent, given that he wasn't using the KJV. Just sayin' man, fix your speel.
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Sir, the Bible Version Issue is an issue of the heart. Mr. Denlinger was simply addressing a question that he probably gets asked a lot. Remember the question was: Is it a sin to use a new version?

Meaning mainly the modern versions that are out on the market today. Most of them are really Catholic bibles.

Just to clarify in case of any misunderstanding.

It's one thing to use the modern versions out of ignorance, but once you know the truth about the Issue, you are now accountable for that truth. We are accountable for the light which we have received.

And I know that versions like the NIV, NASB, CEV, NLT, The Message, etc. are counterfeits. They are fake bibles. Therefore, videos on the Bible Version Issue like these are necessary and good to share with the Body of Christ. That way, more Christians can become better educated on this issue. And Mr. Denlinger does a good job of illustrating his point. I recommend watching the video again.
 
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jimmydiggs

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ChosenbyHim said:
Sir, the Bible Version Issue is an issue of the heart. Mr. Denlinger was simply addressing a question that he probably gets asked a lot. Remember the question was: Is it a sin to use a new version?

Meaning mainly the modern versions that are out on the market today. Most of them are really Catholic bibles.

Just to clarify in case of any misunderstanding.

It's one thing to use the modern versions out of ignorance, but once you know the truth about the Issue, you are now accountable for that truth. We are accountable for the light which we have received.

And I know that versions like the NIV, NASB, CEV, NLT, The Message, etc. are counterfeits. They are fake bibles. Therefore, videos on the Bible Version Issue like these are necessary and good to share with the Body of Christ. That way, more Christians can become better educated on this issue. And Mr. Denlinger does a good job of illustrating his point. I recommend watching the video again.
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To proclaim that the KJV is the best translation on the market is rather ignorant of the accuracy of various bible translations. I'll leave it at that, because I've never been able to rationalize with KJV-onlyists who just assume the KJV is the standard upon which to judge all other bible translations.
 
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ChosenbyHim said:
Meaning mainly the modern versions that are out on the market today. Most of them are really Catholic bibles.
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this claim is very ironic...

the 'textus receptus' edition of the new testament that the king james version translators used was produced by erasmus...a committed roman catholic who one said he would agree with history's most infamous heretics if the roman catholic church approved what they taught...
 
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CrimsonFlames said:
Chosen this is what the Pharisees did to the people., they bound them up making em believe it was impossible to please God

Its a sin if you put your left shoe on first
Its a sin if you sheer a sheep on a wednesday
Its a sin if you throw a ball on a tuesday
Its a sin if
Its a sin if
Its a sin if
Its a sin if

and so on and so on and so

whats a sin is legalism and binding people up with false beliefs of what is and what isnt sin
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yep teaching for doctrines the laws of men.

doesn't seem to phase him any though...

Matthew 15:8-12
New King James Version (NKJV)
8 ‘ These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And[a]honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?”
 
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ChosenbyHim said:
And I know that versions like the NIV, NASB, CEV, NLT, The Message, etc. are counterfeits. They are fake bibles. Therefore, videos on the Bible Version Issue like these are necessary and good to share with the Body of Christ. That way, more Christians can become better educated on this issue. And Mr. Denlinger does a good job of illustrating his point. I recommend watching the video again.
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I don't want to watch the sick video again. The only evidence he gave that the KJV is the only real Bible was to attack Catholicism, which is a branch of Christianity, one of the earliest churches to form. This church has been around for many more centuries than the Protestant churches you think are better. Am I Catholic? No. Do I agree with all Catholicism? No. But I do not attack part of the Body of Christ by calling them a "cult." They believe Jesus is the Son of God, who shed His blood for forgivness of sins, just like any Protestant church.
 
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They believe Jesus is the Son of God, who shed His blood for forgivness of sins, just like any Protestant church.
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Not quite, but close.
 
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jamie26301 said:
Enlighten me? :)
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They key part was "just like any protestant church".


There's a reason why Protestants and Catholics are two diff. camps, Protestants and Catholics have different approaches to the Atoning work of the Cross.
 
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They key part was "just like any protestant church".


There's a reason why Protestants and Catholics are two diff. camps, Protestants and Catholics have different approaches to the Atoning work of the Cross.
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Oh I see. Thanks! But I was right that Catholics believe Jesus died for forgivness of sins. That was my point.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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tribesman said:
I would prefer KJV among the english translations. But KJV Only? No.

For those interested in conspiracy theories, there are a few around regarding the KJV translators:

Horror of All Horrors. Original 1611 King James Version Shows Masonic Handshakes All Throughout the Genealogies. <- link

King James I and Sir Francis Bacon <- link
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i guess people can go to those sites and judge for themselves... personally i went to the first one and i think it is ridiculous...

but that just shows you that conspiracy theorists will attack the most innocent things...even the king james bible...
 
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I don't know if I would say using a new version is a sin, I know I do not like some of the newer versions out there. I am not a big fan of the NIV or the TNIV. I have spent a lot of time comparing different versions and I just downloaded the ESV to my EReader to start looking at it so I can't really answer your first question. As far as the KJV being used as principle, I still prefer it to the others so far. I think some of the other versions have good points and that they are a little easier to understand especially to people just starting to read the bible. I found it helpful when I was alone and came across a verse I didn't understand to have a different version to clarify it. While I prefer the KJV for my personal preference, I don't have anything against someone that prefers a different modern translation. After all, they are reading the bible, something more people need to do in this world. I have to say though the most heated posts I've seen are on bible versions, so I can't wait to see where this goes. I would've never thought this was such a hot topic.

God Bless
 
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Romansonetwentytwo

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Sorry, Replied to wrong post. It kind of still fits though&#57431;
 
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This is stupid!
 
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jimmydiggs

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jamie26301 said:
Oh I see. Thanks! But I was right that Catholics believe Jesus died for forgivness of sins. That was my point.
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That's not the most accurate presentation from a protestant perspective.

Under Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, works act as a sort of "credit" toward your salvation.
 
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Here is another good and informative video that will hopefully wake some people up.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUQW3jbaq9M&feature=channel_video_title[/video]
 
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If it's a sin to only use KJV then every single Christian in the world that doesn't speak English is going to hell. The Bible wasn't written in English. KJV is a translation. Am I missing something here? If it's a sin to read another translation then it's a sin to read KJV itself. It's a sin then if everyone in the world doesnt have Hebrew and Greek as their first language and read the original books in that language.

You could then argue that you shouldn't read ANY interpretation of the Bible besides KJV, ANY translation of it whatsoever (which some people do). That means any book, reading material, ANY sermon, any forum post, ANYTHING that has any words people paraphrasing the Bible. It would be a sin. People would only be allowed to speak in verses to each other. After all, any other form of telling someone how the Bible spoke to them or encouraged them would be a sin because it isn't the literal translation.

KJV was translated amazingly. Our English language now is entirely a different language. You can't stick to a language that doesnt exist and you have to translate the word of God for ALL NATIONS not nations that are just English and centuries old. Our English is new and we have to have translations (accurate as possible so it would be great to bring back the KJV translators of the dead) so people can understand. Do you expect the entire world to agree on forcing every human to only speak 17th century English?

If I was a Christian hating atheist I would get China to kill every English speaking person and therefore no one would be able to become a Christian because they would be sinning by reading the Chinese translated version of the Bible not reading the KJV of the Bible.
 
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