Jesus had a House!

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Well, we really need to pay attention to the New Covenant and what Jesus says... He is the Boss ya know!

If you want to believe Jesus was poor and was barely able to get by... then you have the right to your opinion.

Once we get to where we are going, we will see it was not this way at all.
 
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Mat 8:18 Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side.
Mat 8:19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Luk 9:57 And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
Luk 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Jesus is saying here that He did not have a dwelling place,but of course the disciples would,especially if they had a wive and kids.

I do not believe Jesus had a house,but traveled around and stayed at a house where He was welcome.

Mat 10:11 And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.
Mat 10:12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.
Mat 10:13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.

Like the disciples that when they were out preaching the Gospel,they stayed at whoever's house was worthy.

Jesus was only concerned with preaching the Gospel,and doing the will of God,so He was about all the time,and I do not believe He had a house,but stayed where ever He was welcome.

The foxes have holes,their dwelling place,and the birds have nests,their dwelling place,but Jesus had nowhere to lay His head,no dwelling place.
Spare me this Woe and Poe Jesus foolishness. Ministry took monetary resources back then just like it does today.

Luke 5 tells the story of a Peter getting a catch of fish so large 2 boats had to bring it back. It was at that time Peter forsook all and followed him.


I make no excuses for the robbers on Christian TV, they are shameful. Most of the people I know that give us a woe and poe false humility have never been in ministry at all.
 
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Jesus did have His needs met by God,and the Bible says having food,and clothing,be content,and if any person has money above their needs,then they are to help the poor,because God does not bless with money for personal use other than needs,and the needs of others,and not material things that are our wants.

If Jesus had a house He could still not be rich,for God would not allow it,but only His needs would be taken care of,and if money was given to Him above His needs,it would have to go to the poor.

What is the purpose of people believing that Jesus had a house,for do they also want to believe He was well off financially,with many material things,so they can justify themselves for loving money and material things,for Jesus had those things.

I do not understand the importance of wanting to believe Jesus had a house,unless they want to justify themselves for seeking their wants.

Having food and clothing,be content,and the man Christ Jesus would have to abide by that too.
 
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Jesus did have His needs met by God,and the Bible says having food,and clothing,be content,and if any person has money above their needs,then they are to help the poor,because God does not bless with money for personal use other than needs,and the needs of others,and not material things that are our wants.

If Jesus had a house He could still not be rich,for God would not allow it,but only His needs would be taken care of,and if money was given to Him above His needs,it would have to go to the poor.

What is the purpose of people believing that Jesus had a house,for do they also want to believe He was well off financially,with many material things,so they can justify themselves for loving money and material things,for Jesus had those things.

I do not understand the importance of wanting to believe Jesus had a house,unless they want to justify themselves for seeking their wants.

Having food and clothing,be content,and the man Christ Jesus would have to abide by that too.
This is like saying I should not have the NEW box truck I need for our ministry, because it leads to selfish ambition. Better I should drive around in the old beat up truck so everyone will know I am so humble. :rolleyes:

Woe and Poe humility is a tool of the devil.
 
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If Jesus had a house He could still not be rich,for God would not allow it,but only His needs would be taken care of,and if money was given to Him above His needs,it would have to go to the poor.
If all that is true... then WHY did God call Abraham 'friend of God' when Abraham was so rich???

It's not a matter of having money is being bad, it's a matter of whether one makes money and idol that comes before the Lord.

Lots of good things can be done with money... and the guy that has no money cannot do but a few good things
 
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Answer: As the second person of the Trinity, Jesus is as rich as God is rich. Indeed, our Lord owns everything and possesses all power, authority, sovereignty, glory, honor, and majesty (Isaiah 9:6; Micah 5:2; John 1:1, 8:58, 10:30, 17:5; Colossians 1:15–18, 2:9–10; Hebrews 1:3). Yet during the time Jesus was here on earth, He willingly relinquished His eternal riches and most of the privileges of His deity. Becoming poor indeed, our Lord took on the nature of a lowly and humble servant (Zechariah 9:9; 2 Corinthians 8:9; Philippians 2:6–8). And by the time our Savior endured the tortures of the cross for us, His earthly possessions amounted to no more than the clothes on His back that were divided up by the soldiers who crucified Him.

Sadly, however, there are many prosperity preachers today who would like you to believe that Jesus was rich while here on earth and that God wants nothing more than to lavish His children with an abundance of material blessings. After all, a rich Jesus would certainly make it easier for them to persuade their flock that God wants them to be rich, too. However, a materially rich Jesus Christ is utterly incompatible with biblical truth. Even a cursory examination of the Bible should dispel any notion of our Savior’s being wealthy in an earthly sense. During His public ministry, Christ and His disciples depended entirely on the hospitality of others as they ministered from town to town (Matthew 10:9–10). As Jesus told a would-be follower “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay His head” (Luke 9:58).

It is unfortunate, then, that this false teaching about Christ’s wealth and its concomitant “gospel of greed” has gained a foothold in churches today. As Solomon aptly taught, however, “There is nothing new under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:9), for we can see that Paul addressed similar matters in his own churches: “Watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naïve people” (Romans 16:17–18).


Was Jesus rich/wealthy? - Got Questions?


 
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3putter has either sold/given away ALL that he ever owned and is living homless under a bridge somewhere going to the public library to post messages on the net... or he is a hypocrite!

Since you are so against having anything... do you live in a hippie commune er something?

Yeah, you should quit reading other people's talking points and notice what God's Word says about wealth and the proper use of it.

God is NOT opposed to people having money if they yield to His leading concerning the use of it and to not live lavishly to throw their wealth in to the face of others.

Jesus had a treasurer and received offerings and was known for giving to the poor frequently so He did have access to considerable wealth during His earthly ministry.

satan enjoys teaching the religious minded that Jesus was a poor carpenter who barely got by... that narrative plays right in to satan's plan to try and make Jesus look stupid and inept.
 

tanakh

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I have seen what is believed to be the foundations of Peters House in Capernaum. The Christian Fish Symbol was found on the remains of a wall. A modern RC Church stands over the site which is built on some kind of stilts to preserve it.
 

tanakh

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Jesus must have had somewhere to live even if it was only with his Mum. Being poor is a description sometimes used in the West for a person who doesn't have the latest IMac or 52'' Smart TV. There are millions living elsewhere that really do live in poverty
 
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There are millions living elsewhere that really do live in poverty
This is true...

True prosperity is being in a close personal relationship with the Father thru Jesus Christ by the Holy Ghost based on the written Word of God.

Reckon the Father this applied to Jesus as well???

Matthew 6:24-33
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things
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But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.


Unless of course one has been taught that God wants us to be poor... and you believe it... then poor is what you'll be, always lacking basic necessities living on barely-get-by-avenue
 

stonesoffire

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Scroll up. It says banned under his name.
 
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I never noticed anything really bad that he said... maybe it was in some other thread.
 

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"Our house is a very, very fine house with two cats in the yard,
life used to be so hard.
Now everything is easy cause of you..."
 
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"Our house is a very, very fine house with two cats in the yard,
life used to be so hard.
Now everything is easy cause of you..."
Well, thanks... I do what I can...

Wait! Have we met???
 

p_rehbein

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Jesus must have had somewhere to live even if it was only with his Mum. Being poor is a description sometimes used in the West for a person who doesn't have the latest IMac or 52'' Smart TV. There are millions living elsewhere that really do live in poverty
He had places to stay when needed. At least two of the Apostles owned homes, and when near them, He stayed there. As well, when traveling, someone living in a City He was in would provide Him with lodging. There are Scriptures showing this. And, when traveling on the road, He and the Apostles slept on the ground, and when on the sea, in the boat.

For anyone to claim that Christ was wealthy and had loads of possessions is an abomination of Christ the Lord in my opinion, and such people should be removed from the Church for their heresy. They are pushing prosperity doctrine, and NOT the Gospel of Christ.
 

Magenta

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"Our house is a very, very fine house with two cats in the yard,
life used to be so hard.
Now everything is easy cause of you..."
A classic from our youth, to be sure :)

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One of the best!
 

p_rehbein

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Some people must live near Airports............. :)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSH!


"Our house is a very, very fine house with two cats in the yard,
life used to be so hard.
Now everything is easy cause of you..."
 
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For anyone to claim that Christ was wealthy and had loads of possessions is an abomination of Christ the Lord in my opinion
Your "opinion" is in error and cannot be proven especially considering Jesus had to bring a treasuer on staff to handle all the money!

If He had no money or little money... He would not have been so stupid to have brought on a treasurer as that would have been wasteful and and pointless which are two things the Lord never deals in.



and such people should be removed from the Church for their heresy
You cannot call something heresy when you cannot definitely disprove it from scripture.

Sorry broman, yours is a false, religious minded narrative that doesn't come from God's Word.

Jesus Christ perfectly fulfilled the law... therefore the blessings of Deuteronomy 28 were applicable to Him.

So, are you going to claim Deuteronomy 28 is a lie, or that Jesus did not keep the whole law with absolute perfection??

Which lie do you espouse?