No, See, i guess thank you for answering. BUT you didnt answer my question. I didnt ask what in your opinion is the defination of them. I ASKED What is there purpose. What do they do?
Those are not MY defenitions. They are what they are and what they do.
A pastor is a sheppard (that is what the greek word means)
An evengelist is one who spreads the good news.
and a teacher is one who teaches.
If you don't like hearing what they are. why did you ask?
he hee hee, No you miss understand Im not trying to get anyone riled up. SO please, let me rephrase.
I asked, for what purpose does a Teacher teach, For What purpose does an evangelist evangelize, for what purpose does a shepherd ...Shep... .
The purpose as stated in Ephesians is clear. BUT it adds, Apostel, and it adds Prophet, so the point of this thread, was to narrow down , WHY these three still have the purpose stated in ephesians, but apostel and prophet dont exist. How did they mysteriously vanish. YOU said they did? WHY is the bible considred the "perfect" if the original cannon had a few books added, and then people AFTER cannon was closed wanted to remove books(luther wanted to...he said James shouldnt be there, Esther, Revelations) So HE didnt think Cannon was perfect.
I agree with somoen else on here who said the PERFECT is PERFECT LOVE. Which NO ONE HAS right now. Nobody. SO if NOBODY has it, then NOBODY is perfectly mature, and if nobody is perfectly mature, then we sTILL NEED HELP to become so. SO that means GOD will still raise up people(very few) to actually do so. Most teachers we have no a days are false. Most evangelists we have now adays, are selfish. Most PASTORS we have now adays, were CALLED to be evangelists, yet chose to ignore GOD, and do what they want(Years ago I was under a pastor who admitted it...silly) And the "office" of pastor, is treated like a CEO of a company, and NOT like a shepherd at ALL. They do NOT build up the week parts of the body i nthe congragation..they ostrasize them, and keep a small little sect pf people around them. They Treat them selves like GODS right hand man, and are NOT sevents of ALL, and do NOT help the widows, and orphans(as is what a PASTORS job is. Take care of NEW CONVERTS, as well as the sick, the fatherless, adn the husband less....they are to BE substitute Father/husband...and then take OTHERS hands and put them into the HAND of JESUS...and they dont do this.)
SO since EVERYHTING is upside down adn backwrds, and false teachrs are runnign around calling everyon a false teacher, and "apostels" are raising up becasue they went to school to be one, and have a degree in worship, and no how to summon demons on someone and then bind them...and they call that Castign demons OUT. EVERYTHING is screwy...Which means Satan, and his minions are havign a BLAST.
Yet God never said that he stoped raising up prophets, and apostels to help Build HIS body. Never. That was mans word. Not GOds. And for man to speak FOR GOD, is evil.
SO that was my point.
And i ask again, Evangelist, Pastor, teacher. What is there purpose? To build up the body? So since that IS what there purpose is...and that s ALSO what the purpose of Apostel(very very few) and Prophet(very very few...and WILL NOT BE ON TELVISION NOR WILL THEY HAVE BILLIONS OF FANS<< NOR WILL THEY BE PRAISED BY MAN) are, then That must mean that apostel and prophet are STILL going. FEW...and yes there is false ones, many many many many false ones. But nothing says they stoped.