Persecution thread

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T_Laurich

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How were you persecuted????

I am evangelizing to many of the Mormons at the moment, and I just had a study with 3 of their missionaries, my friends mom and my friend, who are all Mormon against me and the Holy Spirit... And man, I feel so good God aloud me to do that... All they had was, the book of Mormon was written by a man, so that's why some of the contradictions I am pointing to between their belief and my own are there... And they gave me 2 pages of Book of Mormon scriptures to read out of so I could understand God :)

So I want to know how God has persecuted you because that is amazing! (Take in note I am not being persecuted, but I want to be)
 
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As soon as you turned 6+6+6 years old, the world and religion finished killing your childhood and labeled you a "man"
And you began to be persecuted with taxes, bills, ungodly legal responsibilities and so on.

Welcome to the Machine - Cover by Blair - YouTube

If you want to know any deeper persecution, you can find it.
 

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p_rehbein

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How are you defining "persecution?" For the purpose of this thread.
 
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You seem to be confusing persecution with responsibility. Taxes? Well, that's a fact of life. Even Jesus and the disciples had to pay a temple tax...so no compassion goes out for that one. As far as I know nobody in America has been explicitly imprisoned or killed for their faith in Jesus...yet. Poor little me. I was insulted. They called me a mean name. I wasn't promoted because I believe in Jesus. I'm sure when the early Christians were burned, tossed to the lions and used in the gladiatorial games for practice they were glad that they weren't insulted as well. You know, Jesus said the world would hate us. They don't hate us personally. They hate Him because He is the light. Darkness is just hostile to the light as it exposes their deeds.
 

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How are you defining "persecution?" For the purpose of this thread.
1 Peter 4: 12-19

12 Dear friends, don’t be surprised at the fiery trials you are going through, as if something strange were happening to you. 13 Instead, be very glad—for these trials make you partners with Christ in his suffering, so that you will have the wonderful joy of seeing his glory when it is revealed to all the world.


14 So be happy when you are insulted for being a Christian, for then the glorious Spirit of God rests upon you. 15 If you suffer, however, it must not be for murder, stealing, making trouble, or prying into other people’s affairs. 16 But it is no shame to suffer for being a Christian. Praise God for the privilege of being called by his name! 17 For the time has come for judgment, and it must begin with God’s household. And if judgment begins with us, what terrible fate awaits those who have never obeyed God’s Good News? 18 And also,


“If the righteous are barely saved,
what will happen to godless sinners?”
19 So if you are suffering in a manner that pleases God, keep on doing what is right, and trust your lives to the God who created you, for he will never fail you.
 

p_rehbein

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Ok, that's pretty much how I would define "persecution" Biblically, but it isn't GOD that is doing it, it's unbelievers.

You asked in your OP "how is God persecuting you."

Now, that we understand "persecution," I can honestly say: He isn't.

The world? Well, that's a different story.
 

T_Laurich

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Ok, that's pretty much how I would define "persecution" Biblically, but it isn't GOD that is doing it, it's unbelievers.

You asked in your OP "how is God persecuting you."

Now, that we understand "persecution," I can honestly say: He isn't.

The world? Well, that's a different story.
I understand what you are getting at, I apologize for that 'typo'(if you will)...
 
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I don't understand how a friend inviting you to read a book that they believed has brought them closer to The Lord Jesus Christ is persecution.
Consider for a moment the possibility that perhaps your friend cares about you, that his or her motivation is your happiness and well being.
What if the Book of Mormon really is another testament of Jesus Christ as your friends say? What if a loving Heavenly Father wanted to bless you with peace and happiness by sending your friends to share it with you. What if you read the Book of Mormon, prayed about it and received an undeniable confirmation of peace and love through the Holy Ghost testifying that it was written by prophets of God? What if you were baptized a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and then people started saying that you had been deceived, we're not a Christian, or worse? Those 3 missionaries could probably talk with you about persecution.
God does not persecute his children, God's children persecute each other... sadly often under the pretense of God's name.
 
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[FONT=&quot]Hello there,
don’t really understand your enthusiasm about persecution, its not funny or pleasant at all.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I was beaten twice because of my faith (back at school, as a child) it was hard, I even began to doubt, whether Jesus cares about me (he didn’t stop anything despite my prayers)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]And I was also teased. Again, nothing pleasant.
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[FONT=&quot]Nothing for you to eagerly looking forward.
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[FONT=&quot]I didn’t change me for better person or Christian.
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[FONT=&quot]And yes, I know that Paul was proud of those wounds for Jesus. Well, good for him…[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]It is supposed to be grace, that we suffer (for Him, not for our stubbornness or stupidity or sin) (ph.1)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]
Hmm.. btw, I really hope, that you are not talking about stigma –ta thing here. Its misguided habbit. Nothing to do with persecution for Lord.[/FONT]
be blessed
 

p_rehbein

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I don't understand how a friend inviting you to read a book that they believed has brought them closer to The Lord Jesus Christ is persecution.
Consider for a moment the possibility that perhaps your friend cares about you, that his or her motivation is your happiness and well being.
What if the Book of Mormon really is another testament of Jesus Christ as your friends say? What if a loving Heavenly Father wanted to bless you with peace and happiness by sending your friends to share it with you. What if you read the Book of Mormon, prayed about it and received an undeniable confirmation of peace and love through the Holy Ghost testifying that it was written by prophets of God? What if you were baptized a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and then people started saying that you had been deceived, we're not a Christian, or worse? Those 3 missionaries could probably talk with you about persecution.
God does not persecute his children, God's children persecute each other... sadly often under the pretense of God's name.

Christianity and Mormon religion are not one and the same............Mormons are not part of the One True Church. They are not disciples of Jesus Christ....but of their leader and supposed prophet........plain and simple. That may seem harsh, but it is Biblical Truth. If one is upset by this, possibly they should lay aside their supposed prophets writings and concentrate on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

It would also serve them well IF the "inner powers" of the Mormon religion were completely honest about what they teach/believe, and not just what they use to draw in new members........
 

p_rehbein

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Hello there,
don’t really understand your enthusiasm about persecution, its not funny or pleasant at all.

I was beaten twice because of my faith (back at school, as a child) it was hard, I even began to doubt, whether Jesus cares about me (he didn’t stop anything despite my prayers) And I was also teased. Again, nothing pleasant.

Nothing for you to eagerly looking forward.

I didn’t change me for better person or Christian.

And yes, I know that Paul was proud of those wounds for Jesus. Well, good for him… It is supposed to be grace, that we suffer (for Him, not for our stubbornness or stupidity or sin) (ph.1)
Hmm.. btw, I really hope, that you are not talking about stigma –ta thing here. Its misguided habbit. Nothing to do with persecution for Lord.
be blessed

This is what "T" is referring to...........

John 15:17) things I command you, that ye love one another.
18 .) If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 .) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 .) Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21 .) But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
22 .) If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.
23 .) He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

and this............

1st Peter 4:12) Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
13 .) But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 .) If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
15 .) But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
16 .) Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
17 .) For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

........and don't forget that when in prison, the Apostle Paul prayed, praised God, sang songs and rejoiced........

We are not instructed to hang down our heads and cry out "woe is me" when we are persecuted for our faith, rather we are to "rejoice." Not so easy to do I suppose, but it can and should be done. Now, we don't have to look forward to being persecuted, but we should not "lament" when we are.

(my thoughts)