Prophesies
- Thread starter zone
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Just as Daniel was given the sudden realization that the time alloted by Yahweh through Jeremiah of the captivity of Israel in Babylon, so it just may be with His Children when it is necessary for all to know. His ways are not our ways, and He is not a dweller in what we call this age, time:
2Pe 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Psa 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
2Pe 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Psa 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
LOL
okay...i'm cool with that use of the word.
but that's not really what i was asking about on this thread.
ricky
on that note - here's an awesome sermon i listened to just last night.
see if this is edifying in the way we need it, and in the way the Lord intended it.
for me, yeah. totally. what else do we need?
k...zone
....
Dr. Steven J. Lawson -
Dr. Steven Lawson is the senior pastor of Christ Fellowship Baptist Church in Mobile, Alabama
The Gospel Preaching of the Apostle Paul
Series: 2012 Expositors Conference · 9 of 11
9/25/2012 (TUE) | Bible: Romans 1
The Gospel Preaching of the Apostle Paul - SermonAudio.com < click
then there's part II i haven't heard yet:
The Gospel Preaching of the Apostle Paul, 2 - SermonAudio.com < click
.....
i came across it from here: Fighting for the Faith
regular pit-stop - LCMS...oops
okay...i'm cool with that use of the word.
but that's not really what i was asking about on this thread.
ricky
on that note - here's an awesome sermon i listened to just last night.
see if this is edifying in the way we need it, and in the way the Lord intended it.
for me, yeah. totally. what else do we need?
k...zone
....
Dr. Steven J. Lawson -
Dr. Steven Lawson is the senior pastor of Christ Fellowship Baptist Church in Mobile, Alabama
The Gospel Preaching of the Apostle Paul
Series: 2012 Expositors Conference · 9 of 11
9/25/2012 (TUE) | Bible: Romans 1
The Gospel Preaching of the Apostle Paul - SermonAudio.com < click
then there's part II i haven't heard yet:
The Gospel Preaching of the Apostle Paul, 2 - SermonAudio.com < click
.....
i came across it from here: Fighting for the Faith
regular pit-stop - LCMS...oops
Last edited:
From Easton's Illustrated Dictionary:
(Heb. nabi, from a root meaning "to bubble forth, as from a fountain," hence "to utter", comp. (Ps 45:1)). This Hebrew word is the first and the most generally used for a prophet. In the time of Samuel another word, ro'eh, "seer", began to be used (1Sa 9:9). It occurs seven times in reference to Samuel. Afterwards another word, hozeh, "seer" (2Sa 24:11), was employed. In 1Ch 29:29 all these three words are used: "Samuel the seer (ro'eh), Nathan the prophet (nabi'), Gad the seer" (hozeh). In Jos 13:22 Balaam is called (Heb.) a kosem "diviner," a word used only of a false prophet.
The "prophet" proclaimed the message given to him, as the "seer" beheld the vision of God. (See (Num 12:6, 8)) Thus a prophet was a spokesman for God; he spake in God's name and by his authority (Ex 7:1). He is the mouth by which God speaks to men (Jer 1:9; Isa 51:16), and hence what the prophet says is not of man but of God (2Pe 1:20, 21; Compare Heb 3:7; Acts 4:25; Acts 28:25). Prophets were the immediate organs of God for the communication of his mind and will to men (Deut 18:18, 19). The whole Word of God may in this general sense be spoken of as prophetic, inasmuch as it was written by men who received the revelation they communicated from God, no matter what its nature might be. The foretelling of future events was not a necessary but only an incidental part of the prophetic office. The great task assigned to the prophets whom God raised up among the people was "to correct moral and religious abuses, to proclaim the great moral and religious truths which are connected with the character of God, and which lie at the foundation of his government."
Any one being a spokesman for God to man might thus be called a prophet. Thus Enoch, Abraham, and the patriarchs, as bearers of God's message (Gen 20:7; Ex 7:1; Ps 105:15), as also Moses (Deut 18:15; Deut 34:10; Hos 12:13), are ranked among the prophets. The seventy elders of Israel (Num 11:16-29), "when the spirit rested upon them, prophesied;" Asaph and Jeduthun "prophesied with a harp" (1Ch 25:3). Miriam and Deborah were prophetesses (Ex 15:20; Jdg 4:4). The title thus has a general application to all who have messages from God to men.
But while the prophetic gift was thus exercised from the beginning, the prophetical order as such began with Samuel. Colleges, "schools of the prophets", were instituted for the training of prophets, who were constituted, a distinct order (1Sa 19:18-24; 2Ki 2:3, 15; 2Ki 4:38), which continued to the close of the Old Testament. Such "schools" were established at Ramah, Bethel, Gilgal, Gibeah, and Jericho. The "sons" or "disciples" of the prophets were young men (2Ki 5:22; 2Ki 9:1, 4) who lived together at these different "schools" (2Ki 4:38-41). These young men were taught not only the rudiments of secular knowledge, but they were brought up to exercise the office of prophet, "to preach pure morality and the heart-felt worship of Jehovah, and to act along and co-ordinately with the priesthood and monarchy in guiding the state aright and checking all attempts at illegality and tyranny."
In New Testament times the prophetical office was continued. Our Lord is frequently spoken of as a prophet (Luke 13:33; Luke 24:19). He was and is the great Prophet of the Church. There was also in the Church a distinct order of prophets (1Co 12:28; Eph 2:20; Eph 3:5), who made new revelations from God. They differed from the "teacher," whose office it was to impart truths already revealed.
True ministers, pastors, evangelists, and even some teachers use the prophetic office because when they pray and ask God for a message for the people, God gives them His message for them. They speak for God. Ask your pastor how many times he said things from behind the pulpit that were not in his notes, yet perfectly complemented the message? We all know Who told him.
(Heb. nabi, from a root meaning "to bubble forth, as from a fountain," hence "to utter", comp. (Ps 45:1)). This Hebrew word is the first and the most generally used for a prophet. In the time of Samuel another word, ro'eh, "seer", began to be used (1Sa 9:9). It occurs seven times in reference to Samuel. Afterwards another word, hozeh, "seer" (2Sa 24:11), was employed. In 1Ch 29:29 all these three words are used: "Samuel the seer (ro'eh), Nathan the prophet (nabi'), Gad the seer" (hozeh). In Jos 13:22 Balaam is called (Heb.) a kosem "diviner," a word used only of a false prophet.
The "prophet" proclaimed the message given to him, as the "seer" beheld the vision of God. (See (Num 12:6, 8)) Thus a prophet was a spokesman for God; he spake in God's name and by his authority (Ex 7:1). He is the mouth by which God speaks to men (Jer 1:9; Isa 51:16), and hence what the prophet says is not of man but of God (2Pe 1:20, 21; Compare Heb 3:7; Acts 4:25; Acts 28:25). Prophets were the immediate organs of God for the communication of his mind and will to men (Deut 18:18, 19). The whole Word of God may in this general sense be spoken of as prophetic, inasmuch as it was written by men who received the revelation they communicated from God, no matter what its nature might be. The foretelling of future events was not a necessary but only an incidental part of the prophetic office. The great task assigned to the prophets whom God raised up among the people was "to correct moral and religious abuses, to proclaim the great moral and religious truths which are connected with the character of God, and which lie at the foundation of his government."
Any one being a spokesman for God to man might thus be called a prophet. Thus Enoch, Abraham, and the patriarchs, as bearers of God's message (Gen 20:7; Ex 7:1; Ps 105:15), as also Moses (Deut 18:15; Deut 34:10; Hos 12:13), are ranked among the prophets. The seventy elders of Israel (Num 11:16-29), "when the spirit rested upon them, prophesied;" Asaph and Jeduthun "prophesied with a harp" (1Ch 25:3). Miriam and Deborah were prophetesses (Ex 15:20; Jdg 4:4). The title thus has a general application to all who have messages from God to men.
But while the prophetic gift was thus exercised from the beginning, the prophetical order as such began with Samuel. Colleges, "schools of the prophets", were instituted for the training of prophets, who were constituted, a distinct order (1Sa 19:18-24; 2Ki 2:3, 15; 2Ki 4:38), which continued to the close of the Old Testament. Such "schools" were established at Ramah, Bethel, Gilgal, Gibeah, and Jericho. The "sons" or "disciples" of the prophets were young men (2Ki 5:22; 2Ki 9:1, 4) who lived together at these different "schools" (2Ki 4:38-41). These young men were taught not only the rudiments of secular knowledge, but they were brought up to exercise the office of prophet, "to preach pure morality and the heart-felt worship of Jehovah, and to act along and co-ordinately with the priesthood and monarchy in guiding the state aright and checking all attempts at illegality and tyranny."
In New Testament times the prophetical office was continued. Our Lord is frequently spoken of as a prophet (Luke 13:33; Luke 24:19). He was and is the great Prophet of the Church. There was also in the Church a distinct order of prophets (1Co 12:28; Eph 2:20; Eph 3:5), who made new revelations from God. They differed from the "teacher," whose office it was to impart truths already revealed.
True ministers, pastors, evangelists, and even some teachers use the prophetic office because when they pray and ask God for a message for the people, God gives them His message for them. They speak for God. Ask your pastor how many times he said things from behind the pulpit that were not in his notes, yet perfectly complemented the message? We all know Who told him.
Let's not forget these either.
(speaking of the nation of Israel) 1 Chronicles 16:20-22 20 And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people; 21 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes, 22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
Psalms 105:14-15 [SUP]14 [/SUP]He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; [SUP]15 [/SUP]Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
(speaking of the nation of Israel) 1 Chronicles 16:20-22 20 And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people; 21 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes, 22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
Psalms 105:14-15 [SUP]14 [/SUP]He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; [SUP]15 [/SUP]Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
P
Job 11:7
“Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?
Daniel 2:28
but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in days to come. Your dream and the visions that passed through your mind as you were lying in bed are these:
Daniel 2:29
“As Your Majesty was lying there, your mind turned to things to come, and the revealer of mysteries showed you what is going to happen.
“Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?
Daniel 2:28
but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in days to come. Your dream and the visions that passed through your mind as you were lying in bed are these:
Daniel 2:29
“As Your Majesty was lying there, your mind turned to things to come, and the revealer of mysteries showed you what is going to happen.
hang on....why can you discern our friend is not a prophet, but i can not?
gift of discernment type thing?
i hear this excuse constantly.
it's just an excuse.
i never said any such thing.
i said there are no new prophets.
it's up to you to tell me who you say is a prophet - you said they are proven.
i asked, please tell me who they are, and what they said that's proven.
you won't.
so why should i believe anything you say?
so, modern prophecies can be "erroneous"?
how does that work maggie?
yes i know.
isn't that interesting.
really?
what on earth does this mean?
what total nonsense.
so, a rookie prophet needs to be confirmed by a true seasoned prophet - or can any seasoned people of God tell?
what about some names maggie?
or even just the prophecies.
i don't want your made up stuff.
where are the prophets and where are their prophecies?
you said they are TRUE..prophets were GIFTS to the church.
so where are the GIFTS? (the gifts were people - where are they?)
a true prophet NEVER makes an error in prophecy.
the fact you claim they can proves my point exactly.
show me in scripture where any true prophet is said to submit to pastors elders and deacons.
a waste of time?
really?
you don't have 5 minutes to type some names?
on something so critical?
just link me to the book and author.
i'll find it.
gift of discernment type thing?
i hear this excuse constantly.
it's just an excuse.
i never said any such thing.
i said there are no new prophets.
it's up to you to tell me who you say is a prophet - you said they are proven.
i asked, please tell me who they are, and what they said that's proven.
you won't.
so why should i believe anything you say?
so, modern prophecies can be "erroneous"?
how does that work maggie?
yes i know.
isn't that interesting.
really?
what on earth does this mean?
what total nonsense.
so, a rookie prophet needs to be confirmed by a true seasoned prophet - or can any seasoned people of God tell?
what about some names maggie?
or even just the prophecies.
i don't want your made up stuff.
where are the prophets and where are their prophecies?
you said they are TRUE..prophets were GIFTS to the church.
so where are the GIFTS? (the gifts were people - where are they?)
a true prophet NEVER makes an error in prophecy.
the fact you claim they can proves my point exactly.
show me in scripture where any true prophet is said to submit to pastors elders and deacons.
a waste of time?
really?
you don't have 5 minutes to type some names?
on something so critical?
just link me to the book and author.
i'll find it.