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Look up Nathan Leal Zone, he's a self proclaimed prophet.
The Watchman's Cry
Needless to say, I got silenced on his web forum.
The Watchman's Cry
Needless to say, I got silenced on his web forum.
"Today’s Prophets
Heb.1 makes it clear about the prophets words in the past, and the Son speaking to us today by the record of the apostles. As Heb.1 tells us, there were many prophets sent in successive periods, these were in contrast to the Son came one time with a completed message. The Son being not only a prophet but our priest and king. None of the former prophets possessed the Spirit continually, He would come upon them for a message, but not necessarily abide with them. So the prophets were all partial in the revelations, incomplete. All of these are eclipsed by Jesus Christ as the final revelator of Scripture. As John the last apostle living wrote the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Rev.1:1) that focuses on prophetic events.
Paul wrote to Titus to (1:9) “hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that [you] can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.” Doctrine is our scripture, the only true measure of truth.
As established from God, prophecy is always 100% accurate or it is not from God. Yet Rick Joyner who is considered a prophet and visionary says “There is a prophet named Bob Jones who was told that the general level of prophetic revelation in the church was about 65% accurate at this time. Some are only about 10% accurate, a very few of the most mature prophets are approaching 85% to 95% accuracy. Prophecy is increasing in purity, but there is a still a long way to go for those who walk in this ministry” (The Prophetic Ministry, Rick Joyner- Morningstar Prophetic Newsletter. Vol. 3, No. 2, p. 2).
Does this sound like the biblical prophets from the Bible. Does this sound like “...I am the Lord, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, who foils the signs of false prophets ... who carries out the words of his servants and fulfills the predictions of his messengers” (Isaiah 44:24-26)
Ezek 12:25 “For I am the LORD. I speak, and the word which I speak will come to pass; it will no more be postponed; for in your days, O rebellious house, I will say the word and perform it,” says the Lord GOD.”‘
Therefore any prophetic gift they are exercising that is not accurate 100% of the time is not the same one God gave to the prophets of old.
Can one actually be considered a “prophet” with an accuracy level of about 65 percent, and those who are better at get a higher rating. We don’t rate them for their effort and ask them to go home and practice and come back again when they improve God is not training His prophetic mouthpieces on improving in their accuracy? God always rebuked the inaccurate (false) prophets by calling false ones. It is no different today.
We often here (sic) the excuse well if someone had to think they were to be 100% accurate they may not try to prophecy. Good!
Because it is a most fearful thing to say thus saith the Lord."
Sandy Simpson
Heb.1 makes it clear about the prophets words in the past, and the Son speaking to us today by the record of the apostles. As Heb.1 tells us, there were many prophets sent in successive periods, these were in contrast to the Son came one time with a completed message. The Son being not only a prophet but our priest and king. None of the former prophets possessed the Spirit continually, He would come upon them for a message, but not necessarily abide with them. So the prophets were all partial in the revelations, incomplete. All of these are eclipsed by Jesus Christ as the final revelator of Scripture. As John the last apostle living wrote the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Rev.1:1) that focuses on prophetic events.
Paul wrote to Titus to (1:9) “hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that [you] can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.” Doctrine is our scripture, the only true measure of truth.
As established from God, prophecy is always 100% accurate or it is not from God. Yet Rick Joyner who is considered a prophet and visionary says “There is a prophet named Bob Jones who was told that the general level of prophetic revelation in the church was about 65% accurate at this time. Some are only about 10% accurate, a very few of the most mature prophets are approaching 85% to 95% accuracy. Prophecy is increasing in purity, but there is a still a long way to go for those who walk in this ministry” (The Prophetic Ministry, Rick Joyner- Morningstar Prophetic Newsletter. Vol. 3, No. 2, p. 2).
Does this sound like the biblical prophets from the Bible. Does this sound like “...I am the Lord, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, who foils the signs of false prophets ... who carries out the words of his servants and fulfills the predictions of his messengers” (Isaiah 44:24-26)
Ezek 12:25 “For I am the LORD. I speak, and the word which I speak will come to pass; it will no more be postponed; for in your days, O rebellious house, I will say the word and perform it,” says the Lord GOD.”‘
Therefore any prophetic gift they are exercising that is not accurate 100% of the time is not the same one God gave to the prophets of old.
Can one actually be considered a “prophet” with an accuracy level of about 65 percent, and those who are better at get a higher rating. We don’t rate them for their effort and ask them to go home and practice and come back again when they improve God is not training His prophetic mouthpieces on improving in their accuracy? God always rebuked the inaccurate (false) prophets by calling false ones. It is no different today.
We often here (sic) the excuse well if someone had to think they were to be 100% accurate they may not try to prophecy. Good!
Because it is a most fearful thing to say thus saith the Lord."
Sandy Simpson
oh....for.....like - really? REALLY??? Bookends - are you kidding?
it's just beyond belief.
Matthew 7
I Never Knew You
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
~
Jeremiah 5:31
The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way.
But what will you do in the end?
it's just beyond belief.
Matthew 7
I Never Knew You
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
~
Jeremiah 5:31
The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way.
But what will you do in the end?
"There SHALL be Drought in the Land !"
A Word of Fallow Ground Judgment!
Nathan Leal - March 18, 2009
The Watchman's Cry < click
okay....so i post some stuff that sounds Old Testamenty, no dates, no places, nothing specific.
i attach the word drought to it...and when there is a drought - THERE YA GO.
oh wow...this stuff is intolerable.
A Word of Fallow Ground Judgment!
Nathan Leal - March 18, 2009
The Watchman's Cry < click
okay....so i post some stuff that sounds Old Testamenty, no dates, no places, nothing specific.
i attach the word drought to it...and when there is a drought - THERE YA GO.
oh wow...this stuff is intolerable.
P
oh my but yes !!!!! Zone yes!!!.. It will be in the end as it is in the beginning
Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Genesis 1:6
And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.”
Genesis 1:7
So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so.
Genesis 1:9
And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.
(THINK TREE OF LIFE)
Genesis 1:10
God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:20
And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.”
(The body of Christ is being gathered in the leaves (vaults/shelter/the body of believers)
Gods story goes on and on
Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Genesis 1:6
And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.”
Genesis 1:7
So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so.
Genesis 1:9
And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.
(THINK TREE OF LIFE)
Genesis 1:10
God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:20
And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.”
(The body of Christ is being gathered in the leaves (vaults/shelter/the body of believers)
Gods story goes on and on
end Easton's commentary
begin stephen's
so you do claim to speak for God, and your inclusion of easton's definition of prophets (including the school of prophets from the days of the prophets) clarifies you mean to say you receive direct revelation - new revelation from God.
you are His mouthpiece and you speak for Him.
He speaks directly through you.
is that right?
do you speak forth in the First Person "I the Lord say to you...." ; or do you say "God says..." or "The Lord is saying that..."?
anything like that?
you clicked like on maggie's post.
maggie said true prophets can make errors.
do you agree?
begin stephen's
True ministers, pastors, evangelists, and even some teachers use the prophetic office because when they pray and ask God for a message for the people, God gives them His message for them. They speak for God. Ask your pastor how many times he said things from behind the pulpit that were not in his notes, yet perfectly complemented the message? We all know Who told him.
you are His mouthpiece and you speak for Him.
He speaks directly through you.
is that right?
do you speak forth in the First Person "I the Lord say to you...." ; or do you say "God says..." or "The Lord is saying that..."?
anything like that?
you clicked like on maggie's post.
maggie said true prophets can make errors.
do you agree?
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1 Corinthians 13
13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
[SUP]13[/SUP]And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
[SUP]13[/SUP]And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.