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MaggieMye was right on the money. You did exactly what she said you would do. It doesn't meet she's prophesying, but it does mean she knows you very well. 
but you and she have much in common.
it's the lying signs and wonders and fake Latter Rain movement that is rotten fruit.
not a good tree.
it never was.
this thread will examine that fruit.
readers will be fruit inspectors.
you do what you like.
That's not true. You don't have to have a position to have the power...... just know somebody who does. Influence in and of itself is very powerful. Then again, you already know that.
banning people because i have some vendetta?
ya....
you're desperate.
i don't blame you.
it's a problem for you isn't it.
defend your doctrine if you can.
if you can't, take cheap shots and use innuendo.
your foundation is faulty. that would be your problem.
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It's an established fact that prophets were in the Old Testament and in the New Testament. It's also an established fact that Israel in the Old Testament did not believe them. It's an established fact that Jesus prophesied, and the religious establishment didn't believe Him either. Why? Because of their sins, and their unbelief. No amount of unbelief in the Old Testament or the New Testament negates its existence. The sinful history of the church does not prove the prophetic office ended nor can they negate it either. The history of the church cannot be used as historical context to disprove anything that is written in Scripture. Scripture is supreme. Scripture does not say it ends. If people believe the Scripture the way they say they do, they wouldn't be much of an argument right now. The only real dispute should be is discerning the false prophets among the real ones.
is it really?
no it isn't...God is giving YOU new revelation.
and others who believe as you do.
Scripture then is NOT supreme (for you). the new prophets are, since they are giving us NEW information that isn't in scripture.
why say scripture is supreme when you neither know what it says, and don't believe it when you are shown.
it DOES say those gifts would cease, and Paul told us WHEN.
it's you who doesn't believe scripture.
that's right.
but you don't believe it.
that's why we have this NEW MOVEMENT.
LOL.
let's do it then.
let's have the names of REAL prophets.
i'm ready when you are.
no it isn't...God is giving YOU new revelation.
and others who believe as you do.
Scripture then is NOT supreme (for you). the new prophets are, since they are giving us NEW information that isn't in scripture.
why say scripture is supreme when you neither know what it says, and don't believe it when you are shown.
it DOES say those gifts would cease, and Paul told us WHEN.
it's you who doesn't believe scripture.
that's right.
but you don't believe it.
that's why we have this NEW MOVEMENT.
LOL.
let's do it then.
let's have the names of REAL prophets.
i'm ready when you are.
MaggieMye was right on the money. You did exactly what she said you would do. It doesn't meet she's prophesying, but it does mean she knows you very well.
Matthew 7:16-20 [SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20 [SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
are THESE true prophets?
apparently i'll just have to post them all and see if you approve of them, since you don't appear to be willing to put forward anything more than your visions of yourself.
and something about READING PEOPLE'S MAIL.
____ yes
____ no
____ i don't know
____ i don't want to say
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Workshop 1 (Prophetic Conference 2007) John Paul Jackson
37:30 in, not one Word from God's Holy Scriptures.
music.
man:
"we desire you lord.
touch us and fill us, and give us a word, that goes deep down inside.
we are asking to meet with you during this conference.
we desire to increase using the wonder gifts you gave us"
emotional hype, trance inducing music continuously in the background...and now a woman recounting what she 'saw" during this wonderful worship time".
"the picture i saw was of kingly ropes that walked into this place....kingly ropes....at the the bottom of the ropes were tassels...i'm not sure if it's people here....on tv or the internet, but some of you here....your health issues are standing in the way of the next level....the most pressing issue....the hem of the garment....i wanna encourage you to pursue this prophetic depth...there's health issues here....reach up....there's healing presence here...his kingly ropes are here.
we're to touch it....the way i saw it....it was almost like it was almost like it was beaded or tasseled at the bottom...just run your hands against it......and we proclaim you right now as king...over those health issues ...those things that are standing in our way....now just let that healing virtue run through your body....it's like a blood transfusion....
people with blood related issues....run your hands against his garment....because his presence is here in such a sweet way to bring healing and wholeness and restoration....
now, that other presence....i could feel peace walk into this place...his presence walked in....and right now he just wants to clothe you and cloak you...those of you who are watching...it's for you....it's freely given....
....do you feel that weight? it's the heaviness of his presence....39:44
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John Paul Jackson is an author, teacher, conference speaker and founder of Streams Ministries International. Jackson often focuses on supernatural topics like dreams, visions, and dream interpretation as found in the Bible.[1] He has developed a number of prophetic training courses. He is also a recurring guest on many shows that include The 700 Club, Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!, Benny Hinn's This Is Your Day program, and Joni Lamb's Table Talk among others. He was a member of the controversial Kansas City Prophets, whose practice and doctrine came under fire in the 1980s and '90s.[2] He is the founder of Streams Ministries International, a Christian group that deals especially with the practice known as prophecy. Jackson's career has spanned more than 20 years. He served as the senior pastor of two churches, and he has also served on the pastoral staff at the Vineyard Movement's Christian Fellowship in Anaheim, California (with John Wimber) and at the former Metro Christian Fellowship in Kansas City, Missouri (with Mike Bickle).
In 1997, Jackson launched The Streams Institute for Spiritual Development, a training program for mentoring those who claim to have revelatory gifts. By 2003, more than 12,000 students had enrolled in his courses, which have been held in Canada, Scotland, Poland, England, Switzerland, and Ukraine. In the summer of 2001, Jackson moved his headquarters to the Lake Sunapee region of New Hampshire. In 2008, Jackson relocated the ministry headquarters to the Dallas–Fort Worth metropolitan area.
John Paul Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
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IS THIS GOOD FRUIT?
TRUE PROPHETS?
___ yes
___ no
___ other
Workshop 1 (Prophetic Conference 2007) John Paul Jackson
37:30 in, not one Word from God's Holy Scriptures.
music.
man:
"we desire you lord.
touch us and fill us, and give us a word, that goes deep down inside.
we are asking to meet with you during this conference.
we desire to increase using the wonder gifts you gave us"
emotional hype, trance inducing music continuously in the background...and now a woman recounting what she 'saw" during this wonderful worship time".
"the picture i saw was of kingly ropes that walked into this place....kingly ropes....at the the bottom of the ropes were tassels...i'm not sure if it's people here....on tv or the internet, but some of you here....your health issues are standing in the way of the next level....the most pressing issue....the hem of the garment....i wanna encourage you to pursue this prophetic depth...there's health issues here....reach up....there's healing presence here...his kingly ropes are here.
we're to touch it....the way i saw it....it was almost like it was almost like it was beaded or tasseled at the bottom...just run your hands against it......and we proclaim you right now as king...over those health issues ...those things that are standing in our way....now just let that healing virtue run through your body....it's like a blood transfusion....
people with blood related issues....run your hands against his garment....because his presence is here in such a sweet way to bring healing and wholeness and restoration....
now, that other presence....i could feel peace walk into this place...his presence walked in....and right now he just wants to clothe you and cloak you...those of you who are watching...it's for you....it's freely given....
....do you feel that weight? it's the heaviness of his presence....39:44
........
John Paul Jackson is an author, teacher, conference speaker and founder of Streams Ministries International. Jackson often focuses on supernatural topics like dreams, visions, and dream interpretation as found in the Bible.[1] He has developed a number of prophetic training courses. He is also a recurring guest on many shows that include The 700 Club, Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!, Benny Hinn's This Is Your Day program, and Joni Lamb's Table Talk among others. He was a member of the controversial Kansas City Prophets, whose practice and doctrine came under fire in the 1980s and '90s.[2] He is the founder of Streams Ministries International, a Christian group that deals especially with the practice known as prophecy. Jackson's career has spanned more than 20 years. He served as the senior pastor of two churches, and he has also served on the pastoral staff at the Vineyard Movement's Christian Fellowship in Anaheim, California (with John Wimber) and at the former Metro Christian Fellowship in Kansas City, Missouri (with Mike Bickle).
In 1997, Jackson launched The Streams Institute for Spiritual Development, a training program for mentoring those who claim to have revelatory gifts. By 2003, more than 12,000 students had enrolled in his courses, which have been held in Canada, Scotland, Poland, England, Switzerland, and Ukraine. In the summer of 2001, Jackson moved his headquarters to the Lake Sunapee region of New Hampshire. In 2008, Jackson relocated the ministry headquarters to the Dallas–Fort Worth metropolitan area.
John Paul Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
.....
IS THIS GOOD FRUIT?
TRUE PROPHETS?
___ yes
___ no
___ other
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Approx 2:51 and I was done listening. So The Lord NEEDS her to write a book to teach people to pray. AKA buy my book God commands you to so I can make more money.. It's ludicrous and sick.
Steve Martin said it best in My blue heaven "Some people will steal your money. But these guys will steal your soul..."
Steve Martin said it best in My blue heaven "Some people will steal your money. But these guys will steal your soul..."
"now, that other presence....i could feel peace walk into this place...his presence walked in....and right now he just wants to clothe you and cloak you...those of you who are watching...it's for you....it's freely given...."
does this include unbelievers who are dead in trespasses and sins; at war with God and hating Christ?
is it for those who have rejected the gospel but want healing?
who is watching?
does it matter?
does this include unbelievers who are dead in trespasses and sins; at war with God and hating Christ?
is it for those who have rejected the gospel but want healing?
who is watching?
does it matter?
the jews killed the prophets sent to them to convict them of IDOLATRY...and of listening to FALSE PROPHETS....and to tell of the Coming Redeemer.
they not only killed the prophets, they killed the Redeemer too.
what's that got to do with today's FALSE PROPHETS? plenty.
that's all we have - since God is no longer speaking through prophets....just the ones He already appointed. they are RECORDED.
He has spoken to us FINALLY AND FULLY in the Person of Jesus Christ.
His words are also recorded.
did you have a question?
they not only killed the prophets, they killed the Redeemer too.
what's that got to do with today's FALSE PROPHETS? plenty.
that's all we have - since God is no longer speaking through prophets....just the ones He already appointed. they are RECORDED.
He has spoken to us FINALLY AND FULLY in the Person of Jesus Christ.
His words are also recorded.
did you have a question?
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Bob Jones
Bob Jones has been described publicly at KCF as a "resident
seer." This is unfortunate because he turned out to be one of the
most blatant examples of a false prophet, of them all. How anyone
can listen to him for even 10 minutes and not completely reject him
as a prophet, is amazing to me. And yet, Mike Bickle and KCF
thought enough of him to tape a lengthy interview with him called,
"Visions and Revelations." The blatantly false doctrine, and
occultic dreams and "revelations" found on this tape were enabled
to make their way all over the world in a relatively short time.
On the tape, Jones describes how he went from being a drunkard,
fornicator, and bar room brawler, to eventually land in a mental
institution, where he was regularly visited by demons who would
hold conversations with him. Finally, Jesus Himself told Bob in
order to get his mind back, to either kill or forgive twelve people
he hated! Jones goes on to describe his Christian life and
supernatural ministry.
One unforgettable episode that Jones recounts is how he
received a visit from an angelic guide name "Dominus." "Dominus"
eventually turned out to be the Lord Jesus Christ Himself,
according to Jones. Jones tells how, in an out of body experience,
he and Dominus sat above the KCF "in the Spirit," on rocking
chairs, holding hands. To confirm Jones' "ministry" to Mike Bickle
and his brother in law and associate pastor Bob Scott, Dominus
revealed to Jones that he would visit the two men in their dreams.
Each man subsequently had a dream in which a friend they knew named
"Don" appeared (two separate Don's). When they asked Jones why Don
appeared and not Jesus, Jones impatiently replied,
You guys are never going to learn the language of the
Spirit, are you?...Jesus appears in thousands of
different faces to portray something. He was trying to
say, "I'm your friend, I am your familiar friend and I'm
going to show you all things so you can move in the power
of the Spirit."[8]
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/8.htm < click
true prophets?
if not...could ANYONE please provide the names and prophecies of today's TRUE prophets.
don't post any who make "mistakes"
Bob Jones has been described publicly at KCF as a "resident
seer." This is unfortunate because he turned out to be one of the
most blatant examples of a false prophet, of them all. How anyone
can listen to him for even 10 minutes and not completely reject him
as a prophet, is amazing to me. And yet, Mike Bickle and KCF
thought enough of him to tape a lengthy interview with him called,
"Visions and Revelations." The blatantly false doctrine, and
occultic dreams and "revelations" found on this tape were enabled
to make their way all over the world in a relatively short time.
On the tape, Jones describes how he went from being a drunkard,
fornicator, and bar room brawler, to eventually land in a mental
institution, where he was regularly visited by demons who would
hold conversations with him. Finally, Jesus Himself told Bob in
order to get his mind back, to either kill or forgive twelve people
he hated! Jones goes on to describe his Christian life and
supernatural ministry.
One unforgettable episode that Jones recounts is how he
received a visit from an angelic guide name "Dominus." "Dominus"
eventually turned out to be the Lord Jesus Christ Himself,
according to Jones. Jones tells how, in an out of body experience,
he and Dominus sat above the KCF "in the Spirit," on rocking
chairs, holding hands. To confirm Jones' "ministry" to Mike Bickle
and his brother in law and associate pastor Bob Scott, Dominus
revealed to Jones that he would visit the two men in their dreams.
Each man subsequently had a dream in which a friend they knew named
"Don" appeared (two separate Don's). When they asked Jones why Don
appeared and not Jesus, Jones impatiently replied,
You guys are never going to learn the language of the
Spirit, are you?...Jesus appears in thousands of
different faces to portray something. He was trying to
say, "I'm your friend, I am your familiar friend and I'm
going to show you all things so you can move in the power
of the Spirit."[8]
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/8.htm < click
true prophets?
if not...could ANYONE please provide the names and prophecies of today's TRUE prophets.
don't post any who make "mistakes"