SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS FEELS GOOD!

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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
Ok then, well in your own words what makes a person self-righteous?
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In my own words...lol.... why in the world would you want my words and Not Gods Words?

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Php 3:9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
 
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WheresEnoch

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Mitspa said:
In my own words...lol.... why in the world would you want my words and Not Gods Words?

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Php 3:9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
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I would rather hear what you have to say in this instance lol. You started the thread after all.
The Bible doesn't say self righteousness feels good. That is an opinion of yours, so I'm trying to understand your thoughts on the matter
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
I would rather hear what you have to say in this instance lol. You started the thread after all.
The Bible doesn't say self righteousness feels good. That is an opinion of yours, so I'm trying to understand your thoughts on the matter
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Oh why do I think it feels good? Well men love to boast and feel better than others, they love the feeling of power and that self-satisfaction that pride brings... I think our friend Decon gave us a good example of how pride and self feed off of the thoughts that we are better and stronger than others...what do you think...you ever had to deal with self-righteousness, I know I have....I used to fast several days every week and spends long hours in prayer and study and found and got caught up in many works etc... I was trying to earn Gods love and favor, but I was not loving the weak and broken because I was too busy judging others and caught up in religious works.
 
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WheresEnoch

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Mitspa said:
Oh why do I think it feels good? Well men love to boast and feel better than others, they love the feeling of power and that self-satisfaction that pride brings... I think our friend Decon gave us a good example of how pride and self feed off of the thoughts that we are better and stronger than others...what do you think...you ever had to deal with self-righteousness, I know I have....I used to fast several days every week and spends long hours in prayer and study and found and got caught up in many works etc... I was trying to earn Gods love and favor, but I was not loving the weak and broken because I was too busy judging others and caught up in religious works.
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Am I one of the people who you would categorize as self-righteous?
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
Am I one of the people who you would categorize as self-righteous?
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Well I don't know you, but honestly you do seem very focused on what you must do instead of what Christ has done for you...I guess time will tell..right? :)
 
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I like this response on a personal level, mainly because I have found the law revealing who I am and why I am that way in God's sight. Not that am able to flawlessly keep the law, but through faith in Jesus I have found forgiveness when the law led me to Him. So, no matter what good I believe I have done, all of me needs to be brought into the picture, and is contrary to how good I might believe I might be if all the story is not examined carefully by me. The Apostle Paul helped me understand this about myself, that I am nothing except by the cross of our Lord Jesus.
 
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Mitspa

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yaright said:
I like this response on a personal level, mainly because I have found the law revealing who I am and why I am that way in God's sight. Not that am able to flawlessly keep the law, but through faith in Jesus I have found forgiveness when the law led me to Him. So, no matter what good I believe I have done, all of me needs to be brought into the picture, and is contrary to how good I might believe I might be if all the story is not examined carefully by me. The Apostle Paul helped me understand this about myself, that I am nothing except by the cross of our Lord Jesus.
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Wow ...thanks yaright for your thoughts, I can tell the Word of God has judged the thoughts and intentions of your heart...God Bless :)
 
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Mitspa said:
Well I don't know you, but honestly you do seem very focused on what you must do instead of what Christ has done for you...I guess time will tell..right? :)
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Is the great commission self righteous? Or people who do it?

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
Is the great commission self righteous?
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That's seems like a silly question to me...go preach the gospel....the gospel is the glory of Christ and righteousness through faith in Him....It has nothing to do with our own righteousness, except that we don't have any.
 
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Mitspa said:
In my own words...lol.... why in the world would you want my words and Not Gods Words?

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Php 3:9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
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This is what the workers for salvation and law keepers for salvation fail to recognize..........the imputed righteousness of Christ is applied unto the believer while the sin of the believer has been imputed to Christ......!
 
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Mitspa said:
That's seems like a silly question to me...go preach the gospel....the gospel is the glory of Christ and righteousness through faith in Him....It has nothing to do with our own righteousness, except that we don't have any.
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Well the great commission sounds like it would be a lot of work and focus on our part. Traveling to nations and making disciples and teaching them to obey all of Christs commandments.

Was Jesus making a bunch of self-righteous people when He said that?
And what commandments do you think He was telling us to teach others to obey?
 
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WheresEnoch said:
Well the great commission sounds like it would be a lot of work and focus on our part. Traveling to nations and making disciples and teaching them to obey all of Christs commandments.

Was Jesus making a bunch of self-righteous people when He said that?
And what commandments do you think He was telling us to teach others to obey?
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That don't really make a whole lot of sense and it don't really relate to any point I have made about self-righteousness...But could that type ministry be done by the self-righteous...sure ! Could ministry cause us to focus on our own works and forget Christ and forget why we are really supposed to be proclaiming Him...sure its possible. But the term self-righteousness comes back to trying to earn righteousness by the law of works.
 
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Mitspa said:
That don't really make a whole lot of sense and it don't really relate to any point I have made about self-righteousness...But could that type ministry be done by the self-righteous...sure ! Could ministry cause us to focus on our own works and forget Christ and forget why we are really supposed to be proclaiming Him...sure its possible. But the term self-righteousness comes back to trying to earn righteousness by the law of works.
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It relates to the topic of your thread because you are saying that people who try to fulfill the great commission are self-righteous.

Jesus didn't say go around and get people to say a sinners prayer and make believers out of people.
He said make disciples, people who obey all of His commandments.
So what are His commandments that we are supposed to be obeying?
 
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WheresEnoch said:
It relates to the topic of your thread because you are saying that people who try to fulfill the great commission are self-righteous.

Jesus didn't say go around and get people to say a sinners prayer and make believers out of people.
He said make disciples, people who obey all of His commandments.
So what are His commandments that we are supposed to be obeying?
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Dude your crossing that line again where I cant help but wonder if your honest at heart? Where did I ever even suggest this? Why do you have to make false charges...bear false witness to discuss the truth of God? Do you really think God is pleased when you do this sort of thing?
 
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Of course I am honest at heart. Do you think I am being dishonest at heart somehow? You keep saying that people who try to obey all of Christs commandments and teach others to do the same are self-righteous and legalists and in trouble with God. Not just on this thread but on other threads too. I am not angry and I am not trying to insult you.

So should we obey Christ and tell people to obey His commandments or should we disobey Him because some people may not like it?

Do you know what His commandments are that we are supposed to obey?
 
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Mitspa

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Somebody read post #169 and see if I said anything like this?

"you are saying that people who try to fulfill the great commission are self-righteous."

 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
Of course I am honest at heart. Do you think I am being dishonest at heart somehow? You keep saying that people who try to obey all of Christs commandments and teach others to do the same are self-righteous and legalists and in trouble with God. Not just on this thread but on other threads too. I am not angry and I am not trying to insult you.

So should we obey Christ and tell people to obey His commandments or should we disobey Him because some people may not like it?

Do you know what His commandments are that we are supposed to obey?
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So your make false charges and bear false witness, and im supposed to believe your honest at heart? No ...by their fruits ye shall know them....
 
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Mitspa said:
Somebody read post #169 and see if I said anything like this?

"you are saying that people who try to fulfill the great commission are self-righteous."
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Is teaching people that they have to obey Christ's commandments self-righteous?
 
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Mitspa

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WheresEnoch said:
Is teaching people that they have to obey Christ's commandments self-righteous?
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Well lets see you obey His commandments and stop making false charges against others...talking about obeying God don't mean much when you prove you don't.
 
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Mitspa said:
Well lets see you obey His commandments and stop making false charges against others...talking about obeying God don't mean much when you prove you don't.
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It was a question. The question was:
Is teaching people that they have to obey Christ's commandments self-righteous?
 
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