Something that bamboozles me...

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rachelsedge

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In sit-down-order-from-a-menu-server-brings-your-food-type restaurant, your server is actually paid LESS than the legal minimum wage because it is expected for the customer to leave a gratuity. It's a pretty raw deal, but it is what it is. I tip 15% for fair service, but for excellent service, I make my gratuity exactly what the word implies: gratuitous. For great service, 20-25% is pretty good.

HOWEVER, if you eat at a buffet restaurant, where the server only brings your drinks and takes away empty plates, a dollar per person is pretty fair.
This! I used to be a waitress at a pizza buffet place. When I got $1 per person as a tip, it felt enough for me. It is always appreciated when people go above and beyond on their tip, because like Shour said, most waitresses get paid a "waitress minimum wage" of sorts. Even I did and it was only a buffet place (though people could also order). Whenever a table didn't leave a tip, it left me a bit upset/irritated. There were also people who came in regularly who were known for not tipping, and none of the waitresses would want to take their table. A whole group of people not tipping (a loud table of 8, for example) can ruin the whole night for a waitress.

Tipping isn't required but waitresses put up with a lot, in general. They get the complaints, they have to remember a bunch of different stuff (who ordered what, who didn't want this on that, the Dr. Pepper is in this hand and the Coke is in the other hand, etc.), cleaning up, etc.

Sorry to get on my soap box, but having worked in food service as a waitress before, I just thought I'd say that tips are very much appreciated. :)
 
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Catlynn

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First of all I would like to say how INCREDIBLY thankful I am that someone who is from a country where tipping the way we do here in America isn't customary, is seeking to figure the whole thing out. In Hawaii....I had WAY too many people from elsewhere on the planet who couldn't give a crap and I ended up getting totally jipped because of it. -_- So...I'm already totally liking you! hehe


Are there no servers here on CC? hmm...


I'm going to echo most of what Shouryu said. He was pretty spot on. In Hawaii we used to say, "If the service is good, tip $2 for every $10 you spend." which is around 20% and is more what the going rate is these days. Most servers consider 15% to be kind of a "You did an okay job" tip. However, it's totally fine to tip that if the service was only fair. 20-25% is for great service! Because I was a server I have this thing where I can't tip a server less than $5 at a sit down restaurant, but that's just me I think. hehe In Texas I only made $2.15 an hour and most of that went to taxes so I never saw a paycheck. In Hawaii I made more because we had to also pay state taxes but my paychecks every two weeks were around $20 so servers really only make their money off of tips.
It's also good to remember that the server is not always in control of everything that happens in the restaurant and if something should go wrong it doesn't mean it's their fault (although sometimes it can be). I always just ask for a manager if something is wrong with my food juuuuuuust in case I have a vengeful server who loathes every dining out person on the continent. I don't want weird stuff done to my food. haha
Be fair but you don't have to be excessive. :D
Have fun on your vacation!

And always remember....don't mess with the people who mess with your food. ;)
 
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Shouryu

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Oh, before I forget: Katie, El Paso is in the US. It's on the border to Old Mexico, hence it's association with Mexican food.

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Shouryu's Bleu Cheesecake, AKA the "Cheese Pie of Death!" Just to gaze at it makes your arteries harden!
I'll have you know that I ate 6/8ths of that wheel of smoky deliciousness, and I am still quite alive, much to this board's dissatisfaction. ^_-

(Why only 6/8ths? Because I gave two slices to the pastor and first lady.)

Catherder, I'm impressed that you found that picture. I don't even remember what thread that whole ordeal originated in. It's partially Rachel's fault, since, as I recall, she found the recipe. While it IS possible that eating this mind-bendingly delicious cheesecake literally subtracts years from your lifespan...you could also very well be run over by a school bus tomorrow. So...why not? ^_^
 

rachelsedge

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It's partially Rachel's fault, since, as I recall, she found the recipe. While it IS possible that eating this mind-bendingly delicious cheesecake literally subtracts years from your lifespan...you could also very well be run over by a school bus tomorrow. So...why not? ^_^
I am fully ready to accept partial blame for such a wonderful, delicious-looking creation. :D
 
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kenisyes

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I used to teach a course in math for food service. So, here are the customs as I understand them. Sit down restaurant, the norm is 15%, unless it is added to the bill. You can, and should, make it more or less depending on the service. 30% is occasional for GREAT service. Leaving two or three pennies is a statement that you hated the service. Buffet with some table service (drink refills) is 5-10%, but some do not do so. Carry out food is nothing (except recreational food - see below). If you leave nothing, it will be assumed that you are a foreigner, and do not know the customs.

There is a code for tipping bellboys in hotels; I know nothing of that.

These are the only two classes of people who depend on tips for their living. The income tax law even expects them to pay tax on tips whether they get them or not. These are also the only two places where it is impolite not to tip.

Many people can be tipped. Fast food vendors at the beach have "tip jars" on the counter. Use it as you choose. Anyone offering recreational personal services, like massages, manicures, taxi drivers, dog walking, you name it, you tip as you choose, and it makes a statement "I really like the way you do things." My wife used to tip the guy who serviced the central heating unit in our apartment who was paid in bulk by the landlord. She argued it gives good service next time. Some places actually have "no tipping" signs up, so powerful has the custom become.

A famous piece of folklore: We have a number of characters, like "Diamond Jim Brady" who as I remember, tipped everyone for everything. That behavior is part of bios of certain famous persons.