The PRAISE and WORSHIP Idols: CCM, The Beatles, and Rome's Ecumenical Agenda
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yes, haha it sounds like that last experiment might have been interfered with too. that guy is a celebrity & i think probably he wasn't too 'scientific' about what he did.
let's do our own tests this spring!
let's do our own tests this spring!
here is recent study that found plants reacted to the sounds of chewing caterpillars.
study:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00442-014-2995-6/fulltext.html
news article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/can-plants-hear-study-finds-that-vibrations-prompt-some-to-boost-their-defenses/2014/07/06/8b2455ca-02e8-11e4-8fd0-3a663dfa68ac_story.html
it might be that if we hear the sounds of suffering, our bodies might produce the things necessary for perseverance. . ? a lot of psalms reflect hoping and relying on God in times of trouble and danger.
anyway i guess the moral is caterpillars don't sing good gospel songs ..???
at least according to plants.
study:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00442-014-2995-6/fulltext.html
news article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/can-plants-hear-study-finds-that-vibrations-prompt-some-to-boost-their-defenses/2014/07/06/8b2455ca-02e8-11e4-8fd0-3a663dfa68ac_story.html
it might be that if we hear the sounds of suffering, our bodies might produce the things necessary for perseverance. . ? a lot of psalms reflect hoping and relying on God in times of trouble and danger.
anyway i guess the moral is caterpillars don't sing good gospel songs ..???
at least according to plants.
Here are some evil CCM lyrics. I was listening to them in my car, traveling through the Rocky Mountains on the weekend, and I took a bunch of pics, posted Bible verses, and even my atheist friends were commenting at the beauty of God's creation. I also posted the music for this Chris Tomlin song.
"Indescribable"
From the highest of heights to the depths of the sea
Creation's revealing Your majesty
From the colors of fall to the fragrance of spring
Every creature unique in the song that it sings
All exclaiming
Indescribable, uncontainable,
You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name.
You are amazing God
All powerful, untameable,
Awestruck we fall to our knees as we humbly proclaim
You are amazing God
Who has told every lightning bolt where it should go
Or seen heavenly storehouses laden with snow
Who imagined the sun and gives source to its light
Yet conceals it to bring us the coolness of night
None can fathom
Indescribable, uncontainable,
You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name
You are amazing God
All powerful, untameable,
Awestruck we fall to our knees as we humbly proclaim
You are amazing God
You are amazing God
Indescribable, uncontainable,
You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name.
You are amazing God
All powerful, untameable,
Awestruck we fall to our knees as we humbly proclaim
You are amazing God
Indescribable, uncontainable,
You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name.
You are amazing God
Incomparable, unchangeable
You see the depths of my heart and You love me the same
You are amazing God
You are amazing God
[video=youtube;NqMYHmoXMAQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqMYHmoXMAQ[/video]
"Indescribable"
From the highest of heights to the depths of the sea
Creation's revealing Your majesty
From the colors of fall to the fragrance of spring
Every creature unique in the song that it sings
All exclaiming
Indescribable, uncontainable,
You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name.
You are amazing God
All powerful, untameable,
Awestruck we fall to our knees as we humbly proclaim
You are amazing God
Who has told every lightning bolt where it should go
Or seen heavenly storehouses laden with snow
Who imagined the sun and gives source to its light
Yet conceals it to bring us the coolness of night
None can fathom
Indescribable, uncontainable,
You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name
You are amazing God
All powerful, untameable,
Awestruck we fall to our knees as we humbly proclaim
You are amazing God
You are amazing God
Indescribable, uncontainable,
You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name.
You are amazing God
All powerful, untameable,
Awestruck we fall to our knees as we humbly proclaim
You are amazing God
Indescribable, uncontainable,
You placed the stars in the sky and You know them by name.
You are amazing God
Incomparable, unchangeable
You see the depths of my heart and You love me the same
You are amazing God
You are amazing God
[video=youtube;NqMYHmoXMAQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqMYHmoXMAQ[/video]
Soulweaver, I can guarantee you that my sinful flesh would most likely have no problem listening to Reggae or Techno, etc.; in other words, my flesh would most likely not be repulsed to that music. But the issue here is our spirit.
And even though we (Christians) are saved and redeemed. Our soul and spirit are saved. We need to keep in mind that our flesh is not at all redeemed. Our flesh is still rotten. Which is why Paul wrote in Romans 7 that in his flesh dwelleth no good thing. He even referred to his flesh as the "body of this death."
Our flesh will not be redeemed until the day of the Rapture, when every Christian gets their new glorified body.
And coming back to the issue of CCM and secular music, worldly music like hip hop, techno, rock n' roll, blues, country, etc. They all put a heavy emphasis on rhythm and bass, which thereby exalts our rotten flesh.
Our flesh is wicked enough as it is, and we don't need anything exalting it.
And therefore, as Christians, we need to seek to be filled with the Spirit of God. And any music that is loved by the world and that exalts the flesh, a Christian should be repulsed by that same music.
Stick with the Old Glorious Hymns. It is the Hymns and other like spiritual songs which truly exalt our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen.
Every Christian already has the Holy Ghost abiding in them, but being filled with the Holy Spirit depends upon whether or not we will submit unto the authority of the Holy Spirit in our lives.
I say, judge by the FRUIT. How more clear and right can it be?
If it is not good, it will not give good fruit in the listener. And otherwise.
A lot of people makes those hymns into an idol, did you know that a lot of them have been taken from secular songs, I mean the melodies?
To stop idolizing the outward appearance and judge righteous judgment is what I recommend...
If it is not good, it will not give good fruit in the listener. And otherwise.
A lot of people makes those hymns into an idol, did you know that a lot of them have been taken from secular songs, I mean the melodies?
To stop idolizing the outward appearance and judge righteous judgment is what I recommend...
SoulWeaver, most of the information given in that post can be found at the following website:
Dial-the-Truth Ministries a Christian Resource and Tract Ministry
Furthermore, Soulweaver, you can also find more information, research and documentation at this website:
Christian Rock Exposed!
I do commend you sister, for having a heart and desire to search and to seek out information on this topic and issue. And to do your own due diligence on this matter. because sadly today, many Christians are not willing to study further into this matter. When you speak the truth to them in love, they just despise you and rather continue on in their error. Which of course bears fact to the end time spirit of this age. Which affirms the Biblical truth that there is a great apostasy and falling away from the faith in these last days. The Lord truly is close, we need to be ready for His coming. We need to examine our lives before Him and see if there be anything that we are allowing in our lives which are not pleasing unto Him. It is important that we as Christians examine our walk with the Lord daily and continue to work out our salvation with fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12).
And the fruit of the CCM movement is rotten.
And I understand that there are hymns out there that have been taken from secular songs. I also understand that there have been hymns written that contain heresy!!!
Take the battle hymn of the republic for example.
But that why we have the Holy Spirit to guide us and lead us. He will show us the truth. He will show us which Hymns are biblical.
Okay, will look it up.
But please understand that God is not so limited in His work as you seem to believe Him to be.
Things that come out of the heart are what defiles the man.
If the man is not walking in the world, he will make Spirit-led music whatever the genre.
Btw I like old hymns, but I like also other genres of music. Secular music I do not like.
But please understand that God is not so limited in His work as you seem to believe Him to be.
Things that come out of the heart are what defiles the man.
If the man is not walking in the world, he will make Spirit-led music whatever the genre.
Btw I like old hymns, but I like also other genres of music. Secular music I do not like.
I did not say that appreciating bach =sin.
I did not say that either.
What I am simply saying that whatever is loved and cherished dearly by the lost world is not of the Lord. Why? Because right now Satan is the prince of the power of the air (Eph. 2:2).
And Satan right now is using music to damn people.
Another verse to keep in mind is this one:
Luke 16:15Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
I got what you say but usually if they are not fully walking chances are the lyrics will be off. Fact is no man is perfect in God's sight. So no musician either.
Some will discern less, some more too. There are some songs that I cannot listen although they are gentle piano music because the spirit of the song weighs my spirit down. Then I find later the singer is in a cult.
We are all in different points of our walk and different things will also minister to different people.
I only can say what's not profitable for me.
It is about the Glory of God and if it gears an individual towards Him or not and they must discern this for themselves in prayer.
Some will discern less, some more too. There are some songs that I cannot listen although they are gentle piano music because the spirit of the song weighs my spirit down. Then I find later the singer is in a cult.
We are all in different points of our walk and different things will also minister to different people.
I only can say what's not profitable for me.
It is about the Glory of God and if it gears an individual towards Him or not and they must discern this for themselves in prayer.
what you said was that it's easy to decide what music is "good" -- choose what no one in the world likes, by ruling out anything that the world likes.
that's nonsense.
your church have a piano?
guess what, the world likes piano music.
your church sings?
guess what, the world likes the sound of human voices.
etc.
what the world hates is songs that talk about and lift up Jesus.
the world doesn't care what genre it is. i've been kicked out of enough death metal music-sharing rooms because the songs i played had a gospel message to know that. it wasn't the music style that offended the world, it was the name of Christ.
brother, if the world hates your music because it sounds bad to them, that's no honor. if they hate your songs because they declare the gospel, then you are on the right track.
maybe i'm just not understanding you right .. ?
that's nonsense.
your church have a piano?
guess what, the world likes piano music.
your church sings?
guess what, the world likes the sound of human voices.
etc.
what the world hates is songs that talk about and lift up Jesus.
the world doesn't care what genre it is. i've been kicked out of enough death metal music-sharing rooms because the songs i played had a gospel message to know that. it wasn't the music style that offended the world, it was the name of Christ.
brother, if the world hates your music because it sounds bad to them, that's no honor. if they hate your songs because they declare the gospel, then you are on the right track.
maybe i'm just not understanding you right .. ?
