The REAL Truth revealed

[nonplasticcholyman]

he said, the ancient Aramaic died along with the priests,the translators of it,killed by the RCC when they invaded,long ago,and when they joined the army in WW1 OR 2.So no one left to translate the ancient Aramaic.So a modern version of the Aramaic was created? the modern vernacular.Many still speak and read the Aramaic scriptures,but can't translate those writings, 100% accurately.As it's a dead language.the original ancient version of it is,apparently.

It is wrong to call this language merely Aramaic. Aramaic is a modern language, like modern Hebrew, Arabic, Persian, etc. Most languages of the Middle East, and the rest of the world in fact, have evolved from this first language, the first ever spoken on earth. Therefore, the language of the Scriptures should be identified as Ancient Aramaic.

t is necessary to call it Ancient, otherwise everyone can deny that the Scriptures were originated in this language, the language that the Creator of the Universe and His Son spoke. This is the language of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and David. It has gone through thousands of years of evolution. The Ancient Aramaic language of the Scriptures is no longer a spoken language, and the last time it was used as a literary language was in 1300 AD.

Today, the Ancient Aramaic remains only as a Liturgical Language. There are a number of Eastern Churches that still use this language in their liturgy. In order for the people of the world to start learning about the Scriptures' truth, everyone must come to understand that the Bibles being disseminated today are mostly translated from the English language versions or they are conformed to the Protestant and Catholic Bibles from various languages.​

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

nope it's all his work.His research, effort,discoveries etc. Read the words...it's so clear. from the Aramaic that is...
Cain : Genesis 4:16. And Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of the nomads,NOD,other beings,people,east of Eden. No mention of a sister or a wife going with him. No hint at all.

17. And Cain took a wife - you could assume now he took one,took one with him, grabbed one of his sisters and waddled off, but the sentence before states I personally think "took" in the eastern mindset, hints at he found a wife in that land ,NOD, then "took" her as his own - by the hair - caveman styles?? aahahah!)
Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of the nomads!
and she became - became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch...

So there were others in the land of NOD (kjv)("fugitive" in Aramaic)he went there alone,wandered the earth like a nomad, then found a wife!This is after the account of the families and their descendants - their Geneologies :

Genesis 6:1. And while human beings began to multiply on the face of the earth,(men who had sons and daughters) were born to them.
2. The sons of God saw that the daughters of men,* were beautiful,*6:2 Lit. Ar. expression: "Daughters of the human being." and so they picked for themselves women, whomever they pleased.

The sons of God? men,children of god,them created by god- man and woman and child.Not angels.
3. And the Lord said, "My spirit does not reside in the human being forever,**6:3.1 Lit. Ar. id.: "To the end of the universe." because he is flesh."
4. And they were giants* in the earth,(not on)
in those ages and even later, because the sons of God entered upon the daughters of men, Nubians,blacks,the true Jew?
and there was born to them aliens,*Not et's,strangers,who were giants* of universal* fame.
*6:4.1-3 Lit. Ar. id.: "Strange creatures," hybrid forms, monstrously large, Neanderthals.
5. And the Lord saw that men's; human's evil spread on the earth, and every dissipation of their heart's excuses became worse with every age.Interbreeding,bad DNA mix up and total mad human mutations,type scenarios through beastiality,incest,sodomies,whatever they so desired,no want of GOD,no need for GOD,godless,etc etc leading to mental issues?? Or just power greedy? hahaah! who knows?
So they just bred on and on and as the ages past, men were like totally godless and evil!

 

[Ariel82]

how about a link to the artifact in the BRITISH MUSEUM website. he can make up whatever he wants on HIS website.

I want to see if he actually has access to an cuniform version of Genesis...so far, it seems like he is just stringing words together hoping no one actually checks his sources..

"Epic of Creation tablet 1500 BC" ok I'll find it in the British museum page but like I said the one I found show that translation is NOT about Adam and Eve.


The link you gave is password protected.


like I gave you before the only Cuneform tablet in the British museum tells THIS story....

British Museum - Cuneiform tablet telling the Epic of Creation

[h=1]Cuneiform tablet telling the Epic of Creation[/h] Neo-Assyrian, 7th century BC
From Nineveh, northern Iraq
[h=3]Part of the library of King Ashurbanipal (reigned 669-631 BC)[/h] This is one of a series of tall narrow cuneiform tablets that tell the story of the creation of the gods Apsu and Tiamat out of primordial waters. This particular tablet relates the episode in which the god Anshar summons the gods to celebrate Marduk's appointment as champion following his defeat of Tiamat.
The younger gods disturb Tiamat, and Apsu, her husband, decides to destroy them. However, before he can act, he is killed by the gods. Tiamat is enraged and gathers an army of monsters and demons and marches in revenge. The gods, gathered in assembly, at first are unable to face Tiamat. Eventually Marduk, a young god, steps forward and offers to fight Tiamat, in return for the throne of heaven. The gods agree and Marduk gathers his weapons. Tiamat's army is defeated and she is killed. From her body Marduk creates the heavens and earth and, from the blood of a defeated giant, humans are created to serve the gods.
The Epic was recited on the fourth day of the New Year Festival in Babylon, which took place in April. On this day the king's right to rule was symbolically renewed by the gods. The story probably has its origin in the second millennium BC, but was still known in the fifth to sixth centuries AD.
T.C. Mitchell, The Bible in the British Museu (London, The British Museum Press, 1988)
S. Dalley, Myths from Mesopotamia: Creati (Oxford University Press, 1991)
J.B. Pritchard, Ancient Near Eastern texts rel, 3rd ed. (Princeton University Press, 1969)

 

[Ariel82]

mmm...A TOUR OF BIBLE RELATED ITEMS IN THE BRITISH MUSEUM


on a good note it does make me want to visit the British museum and see the artifacts listed above.

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

yeah he was outside of it as his parents got ousted from Eden...
Genesis 4:16. And Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of the nomads, east of Eden.
"Fugitive" in Aramaic.NOD in the KJV.

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

oh yeah sorry about that - for a $1 donation you can get in there - to him not me! hahahaa!

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

there are sites with e-books, text on the discoveries of ... Smith and The archeologists Sir Henry Austen Layard and Hormuzd Rassam. try projectgutenberg.org or a site online....Translations by them of the Babylonian Chaldean tablets and what they went through when they did their digs. Oh, try sacredtexts.com or org

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

I'd like to get his books,but am one poor church mouse,and go see him, the translator,and chat him face to face one on one,and attend that apostolic orthodox catholic church of the east.We have one here so I might go to that, check it out!

 

[Ariel82]

??? Babylonian Chaldean tablets from sacredtexts.com................

still nothing about ADAM and EVE but more babylonian false gods.....

9. Were made also the great gods,
10. the gods Lahmu and Lahamu they caused to come . . . . .
11. and they grew . . . . .

12. the gods Sar and Kisar were made . . . .
13. A course of days, and a long time passed . . .
14. the god Anu . . . . . .

15. the gods Sar and . . . . . .

The Chaldean Account of Genesis: Chapter V. Babylonian Legend of the Creation

 

[Ariel82]

I'd like to get his books,but am one poor church mouse,and go see him, the translator,and chat him face to face one on one,and attend that apostolic orthodox catholic church of the east.We have one here so I might go to that, check it out!

When you go visit that church ask them what they think of the "translator"

I doubt if they carry his books from reading and comparing both of their websites.

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

yeah that tablets Babylonian right? King Ashurbanipal was actually Sardanapulus in Greek, and a pretty nasty onion!
In 2 kings 19 is a king who was read a portion of book of the law or torah found by a priest. Read online that the Jews stated it was Deuteronomy,of the Torah.And the ones captive in Babylonia at that time, claimed it as theirs, but were simply adopting the Babylonian culture,traditions customs and Gods to suit their religious ideals. These "JEWS" weren't, they were Judaeans men of Judah,Aramaeans,men of Aram as written about in 2 Kings 16 :6. 2 factions,tribes - the Men of Judah and the House of Israel (Yah'kob). And H G Well's "Outline of History".

The Babylonian Talmud originated there? and unfortunately the Babylonians being pagan were Pedos and so those Jews adopted it and it was found in an old copy of it.That the Jews,the Pharisees actually practiced it too.They had laws around it.Allowing them to do that stuff.See the video on YouTube.

 

[joeyruready]

The REAL TRUTH.
Psalm 25:5 Guide me in your truth and teach me, for you are God my Savior, and my hope is in you all day long.
Isaiah 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, from somewhere in a land of darkness; I have not said to Jacob’s descendants, ‘Seek me in vain.’ I, the Lord, speak the truth; I declare what is right.
John1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truthand the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Corinthians 13:8 2 For we cannot do anything against the truth, but only for the truth.
John 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.
Ephesians 4:15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.
1 Timothy 2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
James 1:18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of first-fruits of all he created.
1 Peter 1:22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart.
John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth."
John 15:26 "When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me.
John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
Ephesians 4:21 when you heard about Christ and were taught in him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus.
2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, because God chose you as firstfruits to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
1 Timothy 3:15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.
2 Timothy 2:25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,
1 John 2:4 Whoever says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

Please look at the post again I said "alaha" NOT allah....

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

and your point is....?

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

Don't know. But...his reference is to that particular church...He states in an email "He is only a translator."

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

got to love these quote by roters....

 

[clarkthompson]

Jesus and His disciple spoke Aramaic but we are not sure the New Testament was put into this language because it was what they spoke or if they were original texts.

 

[nonplasticcholyman]

The bible refers to Adam and Eve being driven to the east of Eden,then Cain to the east etc etc.

Genesis 1:8: And the Lord God had consecrated Paradise in Eden from before,and there He set Adam whom He had molded.

1:23: And the Lord God sent him from Eden's Paradise to work the earth that He consecrated off from there.
1:24: And so the Lord God ejected him,and there shot up for them from the East of the Paradise of Eden....(the carob etc)

2:16: And Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of the nomads, east of Eden.

2:17: And Cain took got hold of,I remember seeing this rendering in Lamsa's Peshitta (and a definition of it online via another different verse, also intercourse related) a wife and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch.

Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of the nomads, east of Eden.
He leaves,alone,no hint of him having a wife here,or him leaving with his sister,

Gen 2:17. And Cain took a wife - got hold of one,found one

==> in the land of the nomads, east of Eden.
==> and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch.

===> Cain:"I am a wanderer and a nomad on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."Nomads" - live in tents

A nomad (Greek: νομάς, nomas, plural νομάδες, nomades; meaning one roaming about for pasture, pastoral tribe), commonly known as an itinerant in modern-day contexts, is a member of a community of people who move from one place to another, rather than settling permanently in one location.

And this quote = "Unlike evolution, science and religion ( I believe the Aramaic translator is referring to the original Aramaic scriptures) don't contradict each other.(they both testify to the aboriginal man or Neanderthal man,before humans,as they compliment each other, backing each other up.(?). There is that 8/10 chance they were wrong, and it wasn't a Neanderthal woman Cain had a child to, but it definitely was more like than an extraterrestrial or one of the fallen angels.

Then you'd have to say some other theory,supposedly,Adam had sex with his daughters,who then moved on,and ended up in the land of wandering,as nomads. But then where did their Men come from?

 

[maxwel]

Nonplasticholyman,
I really don't buy into this.
(Just being honest.)

But I am curious about what they teach on basic Christian doctrines.

Could you give a summary of what they believe about rudimentary Christian doctrines, like:
- salvation
- baptism
- eternal security
- deity of Christ
- virgin birth
- church authority

Thanks.

 

[wdeaton65]

The bible refers to Adam and Eve being driven to the east of Eden,then Cain to the east etc etc.

Genesis 1:8: And the Lord God had consecrated Paradise in Eden from before,and there He set Adam whom He had molded.

1:23: And the Lord God sent him from Eden's Paradise to work the earth that He consecrated off from there.
1:24: And so the Lord God ejected him,and there shot up for them from the East of the Paradise of Eden....(the carob etc)

2:16: And Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of the nomads, east of Eden.

2:17: And Cain took got hold of,I remember seeing this rendering in Lamsa's Peshitta (and a definition of it online via another different verse, also intercourse related) a wife and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch.

Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of the nomads, east of Eden.
He leaves,alone,no hint of him having a wife here,or him leaving with his sister,

Gen 2:17. And Cain took a wife - got hold of one,found one

==> in the land of the nomads, east of Eden.
==> and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch.

===> Cain:"I am a wanderer and a nomad on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."Nomads" - live in tents

A nomad (Greek: νομάς, nomas, plural νομάδες, nomades; meaning one roaming about for pasture, pastoral tribe), commonly known as an itinerant in modern-day contexts, is a member of a community of people who move from one place to another, rather than settling permanently in one location.

And this quote = "Unlike evolution, science and religion ( I believe the Aramaic translator is referring to the original Aramaic scriptures) don't contradict each other.(they both testify to the aboriginal man or Neanderthal man,before humans,as they compliment each other, backing each other up.(?). There is that 8/10 chance they were wrong, and it wasn't a Neanderthal woman Cain had a child to, but it definitely was more like than an extraterrestrial or one of the fallen angels.

Then you'd have to say some other theory,supposedly,Adam had sex with his daughters,who then moved on,and ended up in the land of wandering,as nomads. But then where did their Men come from?

Genesis doesnt say what you are writting!! Whoever is teaching you this stuff is leading you to destruction!!!!!