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Grace = unearned favor, or Charity. When your walking down the street and ses a man or woman who needs help and you give it to them no questions asked, or not asking for anything in return, it is called grace. If you make them work for it. Your not offering grace, your offering a reward or payment for services rendered. When you give to the poor. Your giving grace, if you asking for work in return, your giving a paycheck for work earned.
That is what Christ did for us, He saw us stranded with no hope of salvation. And offered us a gift. called eternal life. he paid the price in full. This price not only restores us to life, but gives us the power to live for him, and do the work he asked us to do.
So no matter how you slice it. Your working for a reward. and mocking Gods grace, and his death on the cross.
I am not God. and I don't know if the gospel was here before this or not. All I can do is trust God that if there was someone her who would have accepted his truth. god would have sent someone. He controls the world. and he promised the gates of hell would not stop his church from spreading the gospel. Nothing would stop him. he promised he would do whatever it took to get his elect. Sorry if you don;t trust him
ah but as usual you left the most important part out!
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
why is it that you people only pick parts of a passage which you think supports your position, but reject or ignore the rest.
What are we told here?
1. They Knew God
2. They knew his righteous judgment, and they were deserving of death
3. They are WITHOUT EXCUSE.
4. They worshiped creation (peganism and spirituality), all of which has sacrifice, which came from the first sacrifice of God (the animal slain to cover the nakedness of man, and the animal sacrifice of Abel, whom cain slain because God rejected his religious sacrifice. and is a copy of the truth!
That is what Christ did for us, He saw us stranded with no hope of salvation. And offered us a gift. called eternal life. he paid the price in full. This price not only restores us to life, but gives us the power to live for him, and do the work he asked us to do.
So no matter how you slice it. Your working for a reward. and mocking Gods grace, and his death on the cross.
I am not God. and I don't know if the gospel was here before this or not. All I can do is trust God that if there was someone her who would have accepted his truth. god would have sent someone. He controls the world. and he promised the gates of hell would not stop his church from spreading the gospel. Nothing would stop him. he promised he would do whatever it took to get his elect. Sorry if you don;t trust him
ah but as usual you left the most important part out!
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
why is it that you people only pick parts of a passage which you think supports your position, but reject or ignore the rest.
What are we told here?
1. They Knew God
2. They knew his righteous judgment, and they were deserving of death
3. They are WITHOUT EXCUSE.
4. They worshiped creation (peganism and spirituality), all of which has sacrifice, which came from the first sacrifice of God (the animal slain to cover the nakedness of man, and the animal sacrifice of Abel, whom cain slain because God rejected his religious sacrifice. and is a copy of the truth!
