There is no perfect church on earth.

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There is no perfect church on earth. The Church that Christ founded

had and has Her share of problems. All of the Apostles were forgiven

by Jesus Christ, and this just shows they needed forgiving, for as the

Bible says, "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God".

God have mercy on us.

And so, here are some true words about the Orthodox Church, the

Church Christ founded:

"The presence of Orthodox Christians and clergymen in the pro-life

movement is .... on the increase. Though nowhere near as vocal as

the Catholic and Evangelical churches, the Orthodox Church has

maintained a consistent teaching on this subject, as it has on other

issues (such as homosexual unions, polyamory, etc.) that are tearing

apart the fabric of American society. Many disenchanted Christians

from other denominations are flocking to Orthodoxy simply because of

the spiritual wounding they have experienced from their own churches'

accommodation to the zeitgeist. Orthodoxy, in spite of its own self-

inflicted wounds, provides to all who wish to partake of it a consistent,

scriptural worldview that does not succumb to the whims of the

moment.

"To be sure, part of this interest in a more authentic observance of

Orthodoxy can result in zealotry, bigotry and even fanaticism. Anti-

Semitism, never completely eradicated from the Christian tradition,

can rear its ugly head among some of the more extreme elements of

Orthodoxy. Often, these elements make common cause with the

environmentalists, anti-globalists and other paranoid elements within

the secular world. Sometimes, however, the willingness of many

secularists to tar the Orthodox Church with the anti-Semitic paintbrush

is unfair, since indigenous Christians of the Holy Land themselves have

suffered greatly because of the policies of Israel. Unfortunately, the

Church, particularly its (dwindling) Arab component invites such

accusations due to its schizophrenic view of Islam. (The often

sympathetic views of many of the Old World patriarchs towards Islam

in general and Mohammed in particular are theologically distressing

to say the least. (1))" (page 213: THE AMERICAN ORTHODOX

CHURCH: A HISTORY OF ITS BEGINNINGS. by George C.

Michalopulos and Herb Ham. Salisbury, MA: Regina Orthodox

Press, 2003.).

Regina Orthodox Press Online Store


Notes.

1. The late Patriarch Parthenius III of Alexandria (r. 1987-2001), for

example, stated that Mohammed possesed the vocation of prophet to

some extent. Likewise, Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople has

on more than one occasion stated that Islam was a "religion of peace";

this, in the immediate aftermath of the September 11, 2001, attack on

the United States. He has traveled extensively to Iran and the Arabian

peninsula stating his views openly, often being broadcast on Al-Jazeera,

the Arabic-language all-news channel. Even Bishop Kallistos Ware's

historical description of Mohammed (towit: "When the Prophet died in

632 ..." [The Orthodox Church;p. 29], accepts the Islamic attributions

without comment, thereby normalizing his self-styled vocation.

 
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Bloodwashed

Guest
#2
I found a perfect church once!!! After a short period of time, they ask me not to come again!!! I was sad, but they were right, it would cease to be perfect if I stayed! God Bless Mark!
 

lil_christian

Senior Member
Mar 14, 2010
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#3
Whaa? You mean my church isn't perfect? :p jjuuuust kidding. :p
 
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prophecyman

Guest
#4
There is no perfect church on earth. The Church that Christ founded

had and has Her share of problems. All of the Apostles were forgiven

by Jesus Christ, and this just shows they needed forgiving, for as the

Bible says, "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God".

God have mercy on us.

And so, here are some true words about the Orthodox Church, the

Church Christ founded:

"The presence of Orthodox Christians and clergymen in the pro-life

movement is .... on the increase. Though nowhere near as vocal as

the Catholic and Evangelical churches, the Orthodox Church has

maintained a consistent teaching on this subject, as it has on other

issues (such as homosexual unions, polyamory, etc.) that are tearing

apart the fabric of American society. Many disenchanted Christians

from other denominations are flocking to Orthodoxy simply because of

the spiritual wounding they have experienced from their own churches'

accommodation to the zeitgeist. Orthodoxy, in spite of its own self-

inflicted wounds, provides to all who wish to partake of it a consistent,

scriptural worldview that does not succumb to the whims of the

moment.

"To be sure, part of this interest in a more authentic observance of

Orthodoxy can result in zealotry, bigotry and even fanaticism. Anti-

Semitism, never completely eradicated from the Christian tradition,

can rear its ugly head among some of the more extreme elements of

Orthodoxy. Often, these elements make common cause with the

environmentalists, anti-globalists and other paranoid elements within

the secular world. Sometimes, however, the willingness of many

secularists to tar the Orthodox Church with the anti-Semitic paintbrush

is unfair, since indigenous Christians of the Holy Land themselves have

suffered greatly because of the policies of Israel. Unfortunately, the

Church, particularly its (dwindling) Arab component invites such

accusations due to its schizophrenic view of Islam. (The often

sympathetic views of many of the Old World patriarchs towards Islam

in general and Mohammed in particular are theologically distressing

to say the least. (1))" (page 213: THE AMERICAN ORTHODOX

CHURCH: A HISTORY OF ITS BEGINNINGS. by George C.

Michalopulos and Herb Ham. Salisbury, MA: Regina Orthodox

Press, 2003.).

Regina Orthodox Press Online Store


Notes.

1. The late Patriarch Parthenius III of Alexandria (r. 1987-2001), for

example, stated that Mohammed possesed the vocation of prophet to

some extent. Likewise, Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople has

on more than one occasion stated that Islam was a "religion of peace";

this, in the immediate aftermath of the September 11, 2001, attack on

the United States. He has traveled extensively to Iran and the Arabian

peninsula stating his views openly, often being broadcast on Al-Jazeera,

the Arabic-language all-news channel. Even Bishop Kallistos Ware's

historical description of Mohammed (towit: "When the Prophet died in

632 ..." [The Orthodox Church;p. 29], accepts the Islamic attributions

without comment, thereby normalizing his self-styled vocation.

SO EXPLAIN HOW HE's COMING BACK AFTER A CHURCH THAT IS WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE OR ANY SUCH THING?
 
F

Forest

Guest
#5
There is no perfect church on earth. The Church that Christ founded

had and has Her share of problems. All of the Apostles were forgiven

by Jesus Christ, and this just shows they needed forgiving, for as the

Bible says, "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God".

God have mercy on us.

And so, here are some true words about the Orthodox Church, the

Church Christ founded:

"The presence of Orthodox Christians and clergymen in the pro-life

movement is .... on the increase. Though nowhere near as vocal as

the Catholic and Evangelical churches, the Orthodox Church has

maintained a consistent teaching on this subject, as it has on other

issues (such as homosexual unions, polyamory, etc.) that are tearing

apart the fabric of American society. Many disenchanted Christians

from other denominations are flocking to Orthodoxy simply because of

the spiritual wounding they have experienced from their own churches'

accommodation to the zeitgeist. Orthodoxy, in spite of its own self-

inflicted wounds, provides to all who wish to partake of it a consistent,

scriptural worldview that does not succumb to the whims of the

moment.

"To be sure, part of this interest in a more authentic observance of

Orthodoxy can result in zealotry, bigotry and even fanaticism. Anti-

Semitism, never completely eradicated from the Christian tradition,

can rear its ugly head among some of the more extreme elements of

Orthodoxy. Often, these elements make common cause with the

environmentalists, anti-globalists and other paranoid elements within

the secular world. Sometimes, however, the willingness of many

secularists to tar the Orthodox Church with the anti-Semitic paintbrush

is unfair, since indigenous Christians of the Holy Land themselves have

suffered greatly because of the policies of Israel. Unfortunately, the

Church, particularly its (dwindling) Arab component invites such

accusations due to its schizophrenic view of Islam. (The often

sympathetic views of many of the Old World patriarchs towards Islam

in general and Mohammed in particular are theologically distressing

to say the least. (1))" (page 213: THE AMERICAN ORTHODOX

CHURCH: A HISTORY OF ITS BEGINNINGS. by George C.

Michalopulos and Herb Ham. Salisbury, MA: Regina Orthodox

Press, 2003.).

Regina Orthodox Press Online Store


Notes.

1. The late Patriarch Parthenius III of Alexandria (r. 1987-2001), for

example, stated that Mohammed possesed the vocation of prophet to

some extent. Likewise, Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople has

on more than one occasion stated that Islam was a "religion of peace";

this, in the immediate aftermath of the September 11, 2001, attack on

the United States. He has traveled extensively to Iran and the Arabian

peninsula stating his views openly, often being broadcast on Al-Jazeera,

the Arabic-language all-news channel. Even Bishop Kallistos Ware's

historical description of Mohammed (towit: "When the Prophet died in

632 ..." [The Orthodox Church;p. 29], accepts the Islamic attributions

without comment, thereby normalizing his self-styled vocation.
The church that Christ set up is a perfect church, Eph 5:27, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing, but that it should be Holy and without blemish.