TO the REV. DR. APOSTLE GRAND POOBAH"‏

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"TO HIS HOLY HIGHNESS the WORSHIPFUL BISHOP
REV. Dr. APOSTLE GRAND POOBAH"
-extracts by J. Lee Grady.

Jesus just wasn’t into titles. We shouldn’t be either.

I am often asked if I have a title, and my answer doesn’t satisfy
some people. I travel a lot, so I don’t consider myself a pastor. All
kinds of labels have been pinned on me: Reverend, prophet,
apostle … even bishop. Once I was introduced to a church as “Dr.
Grady” and I almost crawled under my seat. I only have a college
degree. There are no letters after my name.

I tell people: “You can call me Lee. Or if you want to sound formal,
you can say, ‘Brother Grady.’”

Today it seems we’ve developed a title fetish. For a while everyone
in charismatic circles was becoming a bishop (and some were
installed into this office with rings, robes and funny-looking hats).
Then the same guys with the pointy hats started calling
themselves apostles. Then the prophets got jealous and started
calling themselves apostles too! I knew one lady who, not to be
outdone, required people to call her “Exalted Prophetess.”

Now the latest fad is requiring church folks to address certain
people as apostles. (As in, “When Apostle Holy Moly arrives,
please only address him as, ‘Apostle,’ and then make sure he is
seated in a private room while his two adjutants, wearing dark
glasses, guard his door.”) They’ve even invented an elaborate
theology to go along with this ridiculous rule. It suggests that you
can’t receive the true anointing from a man of God if you don’t
honor him with the right title.

Sounds so very ooo-ooh spiritual to the naive. But it’s garbage.

Jesus didn’t play this religious game, especially when he was
around the Grand Poobahs of His day—the long-robed scribes and
Pharisees. After accusing them of loving the best seats in the
synagogues, He pointed out that they loved to be called “Rabbi” by
men (see Matt. 23:7).

Then He warned them: “But do not be called Rabbi; for One is
your Teacher, and you are all brothers. … the greatest among you
shall be your servant. Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled;
and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted” (v. 8-12, NASB).

People have quibbled over these words for centuries, insisting that
ecclesiastical titles are not the problem; pride is what Jesus was
rebuking. I would agree that Jesus was going to the root sin. But
He was also asking these title-crazy guys if they’d be willing to
ditch their labels and act like normal people.

When I was in China several years ago, I met some amazing
leaders who had planted thousands of congregations. They had
also spent a lot of time in jail for their faith, and they’d been beaten
with iron rods for preaching the gospel. They were the bravest
apostles I’ve ever met. But when I asked them if they used
“apostle” as a title, one guy said: “We believe in those roles in the
church. But we prefer to call each other ‘brother’ or ‘sister.’”

That settled it for me. A few years later I met Iftakhar, a Pakistani
apostle who has oversight of 900 churches. He also has two scars
on his arm from gunshots fired by Muslim extremists who have put
a price on his head. When I asked him how I should address him,
he smiled and said, “Iftakhar.”

If these two giants of the faith—and true apostles—don’t require to
be addressed with titles, then Your Worshipful Grand Master Rev.
Dr. Bishop Jones (who claims oversight of maybe four churches)
shouldn’t wear his ministry role around his neck like a tacky neon
name badge.

If people can’t see the anointing on your life through your character,
then don’t cheapen the gospel by wearing a title you don’t deserve...

Jesus is the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, the Son of David, the
Prince of Peace and the Apostle of our Confession. Yet when He
came into this world He laid aside His heavenly glory and took on
the lowly name of Jesus. He wore no fancy robes. He demanded
no titles. He did not come to be ministered to, but to minister. If
we want to serve Him honorably, we must forsake our need for
fame and cast our crowns at His feet.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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good church leaders should be humble and view themselves as being -less- than everyone else
 
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prophecyman

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Well this is how I believe... Without him, I can be nothing, without him I could but fail, without him I would be drifting, like a ship without a sail.

I am the least in the Church, and don't think myself as anything great, how could I? There is only one that is Good, God.

What can I say... but that he redeemed me, washed me, took my sins away, filled me with his Holy Spirit. All glory be to Jesus!


There is one title that I have heard here in the south and its unreal.... SUPER APOSTLE PROPHET
 
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AnandaHya

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just tagging it gotta pick up my daughter from preschool :)

but off hand this scripture comes to mind:

John 6:15
Therefore when Jesus perceived that they were about to come and take Him by force to make Him king, He departed again to the mountain by Himself alone.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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in the old testament the greatest title a person could receive was 'servant of the LORD'

moses and joshua were both called the servant of the LORD after they died...i think david was referred to by that title too...

also jesus was called the servant of the LORD in prophecy...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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we also know paul's opinion on what title he deserved...he called himself chief of sinners...
 
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AnandaHya

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If people can’t see the anointing on your life through your character,
then don’t cheapen the gospel by wearing a title you don’t deserve...

Jesus is the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, the Son of David, the
Prince of Peace and the Apostle of our Confession. Yet when He
came into this world He laid aside His heavenly glory and took on
the lowly name of Jesus. He wore no fancy robes. He demanded
no titles. He did not come to be ministered to, but to minister. If
we want to serve Him honorably, we must forsake our need for
fame and cast our crowns at His feet.
yep. that sums it up...

we also have these warnings:

Luke 16:15
And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.

Philippians 2:3
Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself.
 
Jan 26, 2009
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Does an apple tree have prove ppl its an apple tree no right cuz it produces an apple..too many ppl preach more abt wat gift they posses n wat dey can do to prove they r annoited of God, its sad..
 
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From a prophet's point of view it is really more like you give people an apple and they refuse to eat it and stand there claiming it is rotten fruit. Then they would quote Scripture that says there is rotten fruit to try to prove their point. Very few actually examine the fruit or believe that there even is good fruit. That's sad. I do not believe they would know if a bushel of good apples hit them in the head.
 
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keshka

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If Jesus had such a problem with titles, then why do we call him 'Christ', i.e. The Anointed One?

If it's good enough for the Bible to give out this most brilliant of titles to the most modest man in history, then surely it's no problem for us to use them, too?
 
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AnandaHya

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Does an apple tree have prove ppl its an apple tree no right cuz it produces an apple..too many ppl preach more abt wat gift they posses n wat dey can do to prove they r annoited of God, its sad..
and you know before anyone sins they justify themselves and their action in their heart first......

John 12:43
for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

Romans 2:28-29
New King James Version (NKJV)
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
 
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From a prophet's point of view it is really more like you give people an apple and they refuse to eat it and stand there claiming it is rotten fruit. Then they would quote Scripture that says there is rotten fruit to try to prove their point. Very few actually examine the fruit or believe that there even is good fruit. That's sad. I do not believe they would know if a bushel of good apples hit them in the head.
i have seen a great abuse in churches in reguards to prophetic ministry,i once was in a church where every second person were so called prophets and endlesss prophecising would go on for days,i had to come out from that group cuz i i started to listen to ppl more than from his word...now am not down grading prophetic ministy which i beleive exists but not as many ppl caim it to be.
this is my point of view yal can argue and debate abt it i think leonard ravenhil and tozer and reaidheads where a power prophetic voice but they never claimed themselves to be one ..the message was in their preaching birthed thru their devotion convicting ppl of their sins id say thaz a great prophetic ministry...
most of the prophets today tell u the weather forecast the stuff we already know!
and most are just phony motivated by hype and not spirit of God
 
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if id listen to many prophets mhm id have to marry at least 6 gurls lol cuz GOd told them whom i was supposed to marry lol