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You know what's funny I was just saying to my wife that I met someone on the forum that is just like me. I also often attack the possibility that the person posting might be saying one of the common false teachings or misconceptions. 
God Bless You!
God Bless You!
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Amen, Our feelings will always let us down.
Our faith is in our hope. not in things seen (like works). But in the promise of God (eternal life) based on Christ work on the cross. Niether of which we can see, feel or touch. They are unseen. As Paul tells Titus, In the HOPE of ETERNAL LIFE, which God, who can not lie, promised before time began.
A faith in works will never get you assurance, because we can never know our work is enough, or we will not falter. Although Scripture says we can KNOW we HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. As God says, even when we fail, he is faithful, he can not deny himself (his promise)
Our faith is in our hope. not in things seen (like works). But in the promise of God (eternal life) based on Christ work on the cross. Niether of which we can see, feel or touch. They are unseen. As Paul tells Titus, In the HOPE of ETERNAL LIFE, which God, who can not lie, promised before time began.
A faith in works will never get you assurance, because we can never know our work is enough, or we will not falter. Although Scripture says we can KNOW we HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. As God says, even when we fail, he is faithful, he can not deny himself (his promise)
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Romans 10:17
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:13
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
Romans 5:5
Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Ephesians 1: 13-14
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Titus 1:2
in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began,
Titus 3:7
that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Hebrews 10:23
Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:13
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
Romans 5:5
Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Ephesians 1: 13-14
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Titus 1:2
in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began,
Titus 3:7
that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Hebrews 10:23
Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.
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All we have to do is look at eph. Paul tells us (those in Christ) that we were saved by faith, Apart from any works whatever. And that we (those saved by faith) were created (in Chist) for good works)
then to understand what and who James is speaking to we go to context.
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith (so we see the people James is speaking to profess to have faith) but does not have works? (they have no works period, zero zip nada) Can faith save him? (is his faith real?)
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, (zero zip nada, not a few works, not many works. not a list of works. NO work) is dead. (has no life, thus is no faith at all)
Show me your faith without your works, (Again zero zip nada works. Not a few, not alot, not a list, NO WORK) and I will show you (prove) my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works (Again zero zip nada) is dead?
james is saying mere belief is not enough. A true faith will do the works Paul said in eph 10 those born of God will do. If a person claims to have faith, but are not doing these works of eph 2: 10, their faith is dead, has no life. And thus eph 2: 8-9 does not go into effect, because they could not have been saved by faith if they had no faith to begin with.
It is dangerous to add works to grace, because it makes grace null and void, and makes our gift no gift at all, but a prize which is earned. If your not adding works. maybe you need to rephrase.
then to understand what and who James is speaking to we go to context.
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith (so we see the people James is speaking to profess to have faith) but does not have works? (they have no works period, zero zip nada) Can faith save him? (is his faith real?)
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, (zero zip nada, not a few works, not many works. not a list of works. NO work) is dead. (has no life, thus is no faith at all)
Show me your faith without your works, (Again zero zip nada works. Not a few, not alot, not a list, NO WORK) and I will show you (prove) my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works (Again zero zip nada) is dead?
james is saying mere belief is not enough. A true faith will do the works Paul said in eph 10 those born of God will do. If a person claims to have faith, but are not doing these works of eph 2: 10, their faith is dead, has no life. And thus eph 2: 8-9 does not go into effect, because they could not have been saved by faith if they had no faith to begin with.
It is dangerous to add works to grace, because it makes grace null and void, and makes our gift no gift at all, but a prize which is earned. If your not adding works. maybe you need to rephrase.
Dear CanadaNZ:
What is faith?
"Now faith is the subsistence of things hoped for, a proof of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1 ONT Orthodox New Testament, Volume 2, page 399.
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1 KJV
God bless you.
God save us and help us to keep the faith in Christ's love. Amen.
In Erie PA Scott
What is faith?
"Now faith is the subsistence of things hoped for, a proof of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1 ONT Orthodox New Testament, Volume 2, page 399.
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1 KJV
God bless you.
God save us and help us to keep the faith in Christ's love. Amen.
In Erie PA Scott
I find it interesting that the word faith in the New Testament
actually means : persuasion, and being convinced
So it's not blind faith, just because we read it in the bible,
we can't fully act on something unless we have been fully persuaded
and convinced, that it is actually from God, less it becomes our works and
not HIS.
Let's face it Christians have so many different views and interpretations
on the same verses, I believe it's because we do not allow the Holy Spirit
to convince us of what He means when He says so and so...........
And that's why so many different divisions in the body too.
I have found that He will take you to the Old Testament and begin to
unveil Christ in the stories, The Flood, The deliverance from Egypt, The Law
The Tabernacle, etc......
And with each unveiling of Christ, we see Him more and more, and are more
convinced of who He is, What He has done, Why He had to do it, and Where it
had to take place, etc......So our faith is built upon, over and over, from
faith to faith, and from Glory to Glory. So REAL FAITH, is NOT just because the bible
says so, But becomes, .....Because IT IS SO.
When Paul says this:
Rom 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
This word is taken from the same as Faith, and The Lord Himself had persuaded Paul,
about certain things.
Anyhow that's my understanding on Faith, and it goes right along with
Faith is The substance, "The real physical matter of which a person or thing consists"
of things hoped for, The Evidence "Your basis for belief or disbelief; knowledge on which to base belief" of things not seen, "with physical eyes" but with the eyes of The Spirit.
pis'-tis
From G3982; persuasion, that is, credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly constancy in such profession; by extension the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself: - assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.
G3982
pi'-tho A primary verb; to convince (by argument, true or false); by analogy to pacify or conciliate (by other fair means); reflexively or passively to assent (to evidence or authority), to rely (by inward certainty): - agree, assure, believe, have confidence, be (wax) content, make friend, obey, persuade, trust, yield.
actually means : persuasion, and being convinced
So it's not blind faith, just because we read it in the bible,
we can't fully act on something unless we have been fully persuaded
and convinced, that it is actually from God, less it becomes our works and
not HIS.
Let's face it Christians have so many different views and interpretations
on the same verses, I believe it's because we do not allow the Holy Spirit
to convince us of what He means when He says so and so...........
And that's why so many different divisions in the body too.
I have found that He will take you to the Old Testament and begin to
unveil Christ in the stories, The Flood, The deliverance from Egypt, The Law
The Tabernacle, etc......
And with each unveiling of Christ, we see Him more and more, and are more
convinced of who He is, What He has done, Why He had to do it, and Where it
had to take place, etc......So our faith is built upon, over and over, from
faith to faith, and from Glory to Glory. So REAL FAITH, is NOT just because the bible
says so, But becomes, .....Because IT IS SO.
When Paul says this:
Rom 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
This word is taken from the same as Faith, and The Lord Himself had persuaded Paul,
about certain things.
Anyhow that's my understanding on Faith, and it goes right along with
Faith is The substance, "The real physical matter of which a person or thing consists"
of things hoped for, The Evidence "Your basis for belief or disbelief; knowledge on which to base belief" of things not seen, "with physical eyes" but with the eyes of The Spirit.
pis'-tis
From G3982; persuasion, that is, credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly constancy in such profession; by extension the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself: - assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.
G3982
pi'-tho A primary verb; to convince (by argument, true or false); by analogy to pacify or conciliate (by other fair means); reflexively or passively to assent (to evidence or authority), to rely (by inward certainty): - agree, assure, believe, have confidence, be (wax) content, make friend, obey, persuade, trust, yield.
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I was considering this post and wondered what would be the simplest way to sum up faith.
For faith is spoken to as important all through the Bible, yet we take no credit in having it,
Maby this will sum it up.
Faith is the key set before all of us, always available, ready to be used, for faith is the key that opens , brings all that is Gods presance, glory, grace and kingdom to us.
In Jesus, God bless
pickles
For faith is spoken to as important all through the Bible, yet we take no credit in having it,
Maby this will sum it up.
Faith is the key set before all of us, always available, ready to be used, for faith is the key that opens , brings all that is Gods presance, glory, grace and kingdom to us.
In Jesus, God bless
pickles
Oh I agree.
But how can one simplify somthing that is limitless.
I have often wondered how we can say so little to faith, when God Our Father has so much to say about it.
Often I see faith even dismissed, yet God Our Father has spoken often in the scriptures to faith being the deciding of every outcome.
So one could also say faith is a decission, or a state of being, or mind.
One might also consider that faith is that which is the door to everything given by God.
I have sometimes been told that I rely too much on faith, yet, I cannot see how one can recieve anything with out faith in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
Because faith is not just the evidence of things unseen, but the unseen brought into being by God's power.
God bless
pickles
But how can one simplify somthing that is limitless.
I have often wondered how we can say so little to faith, when God Our Father has so much to say about it.
Often I see faith even dismissed, yet God Our Father has spoken often in the scriptures to faith being the deciding of every outcome.
So one could also say faith is a decission, or a state of being, or mind.
One might also consider that faith is that which is the door to everything given by God.
I have sometimes been told that I rely too much on faith, yet, I cannot see how one can recieve anything with out faith in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
Because faith is not just the evidence of things unseen, but the unseen brought into being by God's power.
God bless
pickles
