Why the Bible Is Not the Word of God.

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yeah and there we go again...

Should we ask ourselves why there is quite a bit of misunderstandings of what other people write?
 
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iConflicted

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It's not a bad site and there are much worse, but I think the Holy Spirit is telling me I don't really belong here?, who knows?, take care all, I shall see myself out the door, I feel free already and no more to sow discord amongst any people, sometimes much is said in silence and actions speak louder than mere words. Into the fray I go, lol.
You guys keep running em off. Big bullies :(
 
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iConflicted

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yeah and there we go again...

Should we ask ourselves why there is quite a bit of misunderstandings of what other people write?
The devil did it!!
 

maxwel

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Find the other half of your glasses and go and read the OP. The OP never questioned the authenticity of the Bible. In fact, his point was that he's against those who do? Seriously, can anybody here even read? Some people here just live for strife and contention and their own posting histories bear witness of the same.
If you'd read my post more carefully, you would have seen I was specifically addressing iconflict, and I was specifically addressing a very specific thing she said which I specifically highlighted.

I wasn't addressing the OP.
 
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Richie_2uk

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yeah and there we go again...

Should we ask ourselves why there is quite a bit of misunderstandings of what other people write?
Perhaps why many don't understand, is that what ever an OP write, don't think before they write. They tend to just write what comes in there minds, and say it as they think it, without any thought, "oh errm i may rephrase that or this in case people take me. wrong". So you can see how sometimes how some threads are taken wrong or negative. You cant see emotion behind something that is written.

However, there are those who know's what they are saying or asking, know what ripple or effect it will cause when they put a spanner in the works, in which they enjoy and sit back and what the responses.
 
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TaylorTG

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Find the other half of your glasses and go and read the OP.
Nice pun. Now that you mention it, why did Maxel pick a forum avatar displaying only one half of eyeglasses?
 
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haha

it's not funny and it was not the devil...it was believers who need to take a deep breath and that means all of us cause what are we going to do when it gets worse if we keep shooting each other by accident?
 
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Perhaps why many don't understand, is that what ever an OP write, don't think before they write. They tend to just write what comes in there minds, and say it as they think it, without any thought, "oh errm i may rephrase that or this in case people take me. wrong". So you can see how sometimes how some threads are taken wrong or negative. You cant see emotion behind something that is written.

However, there are those who know's what they are saying or asking, know what ripple or effect it will cause when they put a spanner in the works, in which they enjoy and sit back and what the responses.
well pretty much, yeah?

that is why, breath, pray and discern!

thanks
 

maxwel

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Nice pun. Now that you mention it, why did Maxel pick a forum avatar displaying only one half of eyeglasses?
He didn't actually make a pun.
A pun is a clever play on words, using different meanings for the same word.
He just made an insult.

No worries.
Insults are fun too.
 
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iConflicted

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If you'd read my post more carefully, you would have seen I was specifically addressing iconflict, and I was specifically addressing a very specific thing she said which I specifically highlighted.

I wasn't addressing the OP.
My answer still applies. Its a conspiracy thread. Questioning some biblical stuff is allowed. Doesn't mean were preaching fallacies. Just have questions. So ease up cowboy. Not attacking you. Not defending false prophets. Merely stating that in a conspiracy thread.. there's some leeway in regards to what's permittable in a christian forum.

And you must be honest. People here have absolutely jumped the gun without reading OP correctly. Posting a question doesn't prove they believe it. Just shows they want a discussion.

Debates are fun. Arguments aren't. Arguments are an ego issue and little else. IMO.

I think I'll start a new trend. Every OP gets a question. "What is your stance on this?" That may clear up some confusion so people don't feel an OP is attacking their personal belief system simply by creating a thread with a title MEANT to grab our attention.
 
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purgedconscience

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He didn't actually make a pun.
A pun is a clever play on words, using different meanings for the same word.
He just made an insult.

No worries.
Insults are fun too.
It wasn't my intent to insult you, but I can see how it sounds insulting, so I apologize. Please forgive me. I was merely addressing how many posts are answered without seemingly ever having been read and your avatar depicted that pretty well. Ironically, I should have inquired about your post before responding, so I apologize for that as well.
 

maxwel

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My answer still applies. Its a conspiracy thread. Questioning some biblical stuff is allowed. Doesn't mean were preaching fallacies. Just have questions. So ease up cowboy. Not attacking you. Not defending false prophets. Merely stating that in a conspiracy thread.. there's some leeway in regards to what's permittable in a christian forum.

And you must be honest. People here have absolutely jumped the gun without reading OP correctly. Posting a question doesn't prove they believe it. Just shows they want a discussion.

Debates are fun. Arguments aren't. Arguments are an ego issue and little else. IMO.

I think I'll start a new trend. Every OP gets a question. "What is your stance on this?" That may clear up some confusion so people don't feel an OP is attacking their personal belief system simply by creating a thread with a title MEANT to grab our attention.
1. "Its a conspiracy thread"
No, it's not.
This is a biblical issue, and it's posted in the Bible Discussion Forum.


Veracity of scripture and manuscript evidence are scholarly, biblical issues, which have been studied for millennia.
It isn't a conspiracy issue... it's an academic issue.
These things are studied in every seminary.



2. "So ease up cowboy"
If I had called YOU a name in a derogatory way,
you'd be claiming I was mean, and that I attacked you.


Maybe you should slow down a bit, and give more thought to what you say.



3. "Not attacking you."
I never stated, so far, that you attacked anyone...
so this statement is, once again, you playing the "victim",
and acting like you're being accused of things you weren't accused of.


I said that YOU have been starting debates by stating non-orthodox views on controversial issues,
and then YOU act like a victim after a debate ensues.

This IS an accurate observation, and we can pull up the posts to verify it.



4. "People here have absolutely jumped the gun without reading OP correctly"
I never addressed the OP at all.

I don't know what other people in this thread have been doing,
but by addressing this to me, you're accusing me of this.

This is either not observant, or not honest.
I'll let you pick whichever one you prefer.



5. "Debates are fun. Arguments aren't."

This statement sounds lovely, but in actuality it is meaningless...
it is little more than just YOU creating your own little semantic argument, out of thin air, so you can feel like a victim whenever someone disagrees with you.


Here's why:
The words "debate" and "argumentation" are synonyms...
BOTH WORDS can refer to polite academic disagreement,
OR a heated emotional fight.

They can be used interchangeably.

So technically, the statement you made here is a nonsense statement.


What about just being polite?
If we want to talk about debating "politely" or debating "impolitely", that's fine.
But even then, we'd have to define exactly what we mean by "impolite".
No one can really define all the parameters of being polite.
And you certainly can't define polite if the other party accuses you of being "mean" just for disagreeing.

This is how things really word around here:
EVERYONE SAYS THE OTHER GUY IS MEAN WHENEVER THEIR POSITION IS CONTRADICTED.

It's always very immature, and ridiculous.

It never has anything to do with courtesy, or politeness.
It never has anything to do with formal rules of debate.
Everyone here gets upset whenever their position is challenged or contradicted.
 
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Dude653

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I have noticed that there are individuals here who hover like vultures just waiting for someone to say something that they disagree with or seems the slightest bit controversial so they can pounce on them and attack them...the trolling is real...ijs
 
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iConflicted

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Indeed. I confused the threads. Whoops.

You take generalization pretty personally.

I'm not sorry I have questions.
I'm not sorry if you see them as argument inducing hogwash.
I'm not sorry that I can't accept answers given as absolute.
I'm not sorry for answering questions with questions.

I dont mind being disagreed with. My
main issue has been someone feeding me answers that I refuse to accept. And when I refuse, they assume I'm starting a fight or talking against God or trying n to discredit Scripture. I feel my questions legitimate. Your opinion may differ. I don't mind.

Some people hardly means YOU.

I've not learned exactly the art of quoting multiples in same reply. Ill work on it Ok.
So yes. Some was addressed to you. Other parts were a generalization.
And thanks for following my threads?

Shame all you see is someone making trouble because I question answers given to questions I have about answers we've been forced to accept as truths.
(See what I did there??? I lol'd)

I'm not offended. Its perspective I keep hearing. We are entitled to our own. I don't set out to be a problem. I just want confidence in the answers given. I pray for understanding. And peace if I'm outside God's will for me in this searching.

In short!!! Sorry. Sorry for confusing threads and for calling you a cowboy. That was mean. Nobody likes cowboys.
 
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iConflicted

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I have noticed that there are individuals here who hover like vultures just waiting for someone to say something that they disagree with or seems the slightest bit controversial so they can pounce on them and attack them...the trolling is real...ijs
Lol i was replying not hovering!! :)
 
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I disagree. The Bible is the "Written Word of God" and Jesus is the "Living Word of God." I think of the "Written Word" as sort of like a love letter from the LORD. You cannot have one without the other and both are just as equally important. For the "Written Word" (and the "Spoken Word of God") always abides with the "Living Word."
An interesting thought Jason.
 
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Mitspa

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Yeah, if many claim they have Holy Spirit (like Christendom as a whole) then expect to be challenged on that account, if not then create a private forum for selected members and don't allow the general public in to challenge Christendom?. But i can understand the swearing, mind you i have seen (rofl) quite a lot on this forum so sometimes it is a double standard.
If somebody is big enough to challenge the faith then they should be big enough when those of faith challenge them...we are not called to just listen to any nonsense that comes along...and as believers we don't cuss others because they question us.
 
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You misunderstood Kedge's post. When he said that the Holy Spirit is telling him that "he doesn't belong here", he meant "here" as in the website: christianchat.com. He didn't mean "here" as in Christianity.
I don't know that I did misunderstand him. He lists himself as 'spiritually unsure'.