WOE TO THOSE WITH CHILD

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valiant

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Have you ever wondered how a pregnant woman in that time would suffer that "wrath" on those "days of vengeance"? Did you know our Lord Jesus was referring to an important parable with that warning of "woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days!"? How many preachers just quickly skip over this?

Luke 21:22-23

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
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This is then followed by 'and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations'. This is clearly therefore referring to 70 AD and its aftermath. So we know, at least theoretically how they felt, for it was 2000 years ago.

Mark 13:17-20
17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.
19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.
KJV
yes this is describing the great tribulation on the Jews which began in 70 AD and continues to the present time.

Those "days of vengeance" is the time of God's cup of wrath poured out upon the wicked on the day of Christ's second coming (see Isaiah 61:2 with the last phrase, the place where our Lord Jesus stopped reading in Luke 4 from the Book of Isaiah, because that is about the event of His second coming).
If they are then it makes nonsense of Jesus' words. He was clearly referring to the events following 70 AD
 

prove-all

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If they are then it makes nonsense of Jesus' words. He was clearly referring to the events following 70 AD

the nonsence is saying the Day of Gods wrath and vengence is past.




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the nonsence is saying the Day of Gods wrath and vengence is past.
It's nonsense to claim that the day of vengeance against Jerusalem and Judah isn't past. That is specifically what the disciples asked Jesus about.
 

prove-all

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It's nonsense to claim that the day of vengeance against Jerusalem and Judah isn't past. That is specifically what the disciples asked Jesus about.
3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying,

Tell us, when shall these things be?

and what shall be the sign of thy coming,

and of the end of the world?


-so the end of the world happened? allready past?
 

valiant

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the nonsence is saying the Day of Gods wrath and vengence is past.
Try and be honest in your criticisms. I said the day mentioned by Jesus in Luke was past. But we are in the days of God's wrath NOW (Rom 1.18). And that will continue to the end.


I removed your attachment. I don't accept such baloney
 

valiant

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3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying,

Tell us, when shall these things be?

and what shall be the sign of thy coming,

and of the end of the world?


-so the end of the world happened? allready past?
LOL there were THREE questions. so we expect three consecutive answers. I realise that maths is possibly difficult for you to grasp, but it is important. Luke was answering 'when shall these things be?' as he specifically makes clear in 21.6-7
 

DP

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1And he began to speak unto them by parables.

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3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple,
Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him [privately],

this was not a parable, he spoke to them plainly
And the use of the with child metaphor applied spiritually about false worship per God's Word is simple enough that it really shouldn't need further explaining, but obviously that's not the case with many brethren who still... don't understand its use for the end.
 
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3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying,

Tell us, when shall these things be?

and what shall be the sign of thy coming,

and of the end of the world?


-so the end of the world happened? allready past?
That was asked in direct response to this:

​And [as] Jesus went out of the temple [courts] he was going along, and his disciples came up to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered [and] said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not [one] stone will be left here on [another] stone that will not be thrown down!” Matthew 24:1-2

That happened in 70 AD.
 

DP

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That was asked in direct response to this:
​And [as] Jesus went out of the temple [courts] he was going along, and his disciples came up to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered [and] said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not [one] stone will be left here on [another] stone that will not be thrown down!” Matthew 24:1-2

That happened in 70 AD.
No, that's what you are TOLD to think it means, but the huge stones of the Wailing Wall (western wall of the old Herod temple complex) are still standing there today.