The 'ELECT' vs 'Free-Choice'
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She is mad at the UN for this:
The UN Secretary General has decided that he does not recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization that sexually harmed the victims of Oct. 7th. The burning I felt in my body when I read this could have burned an entire galaxy.
His unbearable ignorance only proves that “Screams Before Silence” is a must- watch documentary. It sheds light on the sexual horrors Hamas committed on October 7th.
Does that read she is HAMAS?
The UN Secretary General has decided that he does not recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization that sexually harmed the victims of Oct. 7th. The burning I felt in my body when I read this could have burned an entire galaxy.
His unbearable ignorance only proves that “Screams Before Silence” is a must- watch documentary. It sheds light on the sexual horrors Hamas committed on October 7th.
Does that read she is HAMAS?
Man has choice yet its governed and enslaved to a evil heart and nature, so its void of any Spiritually good choices, Rom 3:10-12
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Our nature prior to new birth which sets us free Eph 2:2-3
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
So our choices before regeneration will be dictated by our evil heart and nature, even our most moral and honest choices.
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Our nature prior to new birth which sets us free Eph 2:2-3
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
So our choices before regeneration will be dictated by our evil heart and nature, even our most moral and honest choices.
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Why does this matter to you whether im Jewish
Or why should it matter if I'm a universalist
Or why should it matter what label I am, or what label anyone else is.
The only thing that matters is how precious Gods life is.
And also his Life lives in everyone,
His word says Jesus was the living stone that became a more precious stone and all people have a stone of Jesus living in them before they to become a more precious stone, that's what his word says.
And his words says all people are in the book of life with his stone of life, a heavenly jewel given to Adam to be the jewel of all men, whether governed by the power of life or under the power of death.
His word says all people are in the book of life and remain in his book of life unless they are blotted out.
They all have the same name, it's called life and a living stone of Jesus. That is eunique to them because there earthly body inscribes his stone with a eunique identity, but it's still all the same to God, it's called his life.
The holy spirit spoke to the Jews and said you where not once a people and now you are.
is this universal yes it is, it is God's life, that lives in everyone, and his life ties everyone to the old covenant with his laws written on there hearts , and the only way the old covenant is taken away is unless it's taken away by the chief corner stone Christ
This is the universal life of Christ it's the truth of all truth.
Neither is it being a troll it's called being a steward of God's word.
Neither it is being a universalist
It's called valuing life, his life
It's called telling people what they have.
It's called asking people to search within.
Are theese people going to universal about this.
Well no take a look around buddy.
Is it not universal that God wants all life saved.
Should it matter what label is out on his life.
What matter is the ransom he put on his life.
What matters is making people feal they have something, a living stone of Jesus in them.
What matter is telling them where this life was created in Adam in heaven to be the life of all people.
They have to listen tho.
Are you listening
Well do the right thing and accept it.
Because this distortion is leading no where.
The bible Is not about who is more chosen than anyone else.
God had to start somewhere right.
Now you listen to these words and you take them in.
And you bless this lady. And you stop listening to self centred people here. Bullies they are
Or why should it matter if I'm a universalist
Or why should it matter what label I am, or what label anyone else is.
The only thing that matters is how precious Gods life is.
And also his Life lives in everyone,
His word says Jesus was the living stone that became a more precious stone and all people have a stone of Jesus living in them before they to become a more precious stone, that's what his word says.
And his words says all people are in the book of life with his stone of life, a heavenly jewel given to Adam to be the jewel of all men, whether governed by the power of life or under the power of death.
His word says all people are in the book of life and remain in his book of life unless they are blotted out.
They all have the same name, it's called life and a living stone of Jesus. That is eunique to them because there earthly body inscribes his stone with a eunique identity, but it's still all the same to God, it's called his life.
The holy spirit spoke to the Jews and said you where not once a people and now you are.
is this universal yes it is, it is God's life, that lives in everyone, and his life ties everyone to the old covenant with his laws written on there hearts , and the only way the old covenant is taken away is unless it's taken away by the chief corner stone Christ
This is the universal life of Christ it's the truth of all truth.
Neither is it being a troll it's called being a steward of God's word.
Neither it is being a universalist
It's called valuing life, his life
It's called telling people what they have.
It's called asking people to search within.
Are theese people going to universal about this.
Well no take a look around buddy.
Is it not universal that God wants all life saved.
Should it matter what label is out on his life.
What matter is the ransom he put on his life.
What matters is making people feal they have something, a living stone of Jesus in them.
What matter is telling them where this life was created in Adam in heaven to be the life of all people.
They have to listen tho.
Are you listening
Well do the right thing and accept it.
Because this distortion is leading no where.
The bible Is not about who is more chosen than anyone else.
God had to start somewhere right.
Now you listen to these words and you take them in.
And you bless this lady. And you stop listening to self centred people here. Bullies they are
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You pretend that Selah did nothing wrong - you're just as dishonest as she is. And this WHOLE thread shows both of your lies and gaslighting.
And even though I didn't name you, it's funny that you think I did. I wonder why.
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And even though I didn't name you, it's funny that you think I did. I wonder why.
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I think that people have pretty much self identified here while falsely accusing and trying very hard to create some kind of self righteous pretense that they are being picked on and gossiped about. Of course, that is a totally false narrative.
Frankly, I was surprised at the way it blew up.
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well a person can pick and choose verses they believe apply to their particular beliefs....OR....they can consider the whole biblical counsel
The Holy Spirit does not indwell someone who has not accepted Christ. there is not one indication in scripture that that occurs and there is no defense available for anyone to persuade others that He does
The Holy Spirit does not indwell someone who has not accepted Christ. there is not one indication in scripture that that occurs and there is no defense available for anyone to persuade others that He does
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Yup, to all that you wrote above.
I was surprised too but I think God allowed it to happen to expose people's hearts. You don't really know how much a Christian abides in Christ until a crisis comes out. Then you see whether they act in accordance to the Holy Spirit or in their flesh. I found it to be very revealing.
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