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The word in Greek which is used in passages such as 1 Cor. 13 is agape. This is a kind of love which includes deep respect and admiration, which is full of thoughtfulness and concern for others.
There are actually 4 words in Greek for "love" and 3 of them are used in the Bible. Agape love is the kind of love God shows us, and we are to show others. It has nothing to do with romantic love.
As for the KJV, well, it was written 400 years ago. The word "charity" has taken on different meanings today. It often means "a hand out" or "helping the poor." Language changes and moves on. So that is why charity is not used in modern versions. Simply because we speak modern English, not Middle English. I think it is sad that the word "love" has so many connotations in English, because we can lose sight of what God was really intending for us to understand about what the word "agape" really means. But I do confess, that charity doesn't have as much meaning for me as "love."
There are actually 4 words in Greek for "love" and 3 of them are used in the Bible. Agape love is the kind of love God shows us, and we are to show others. It has nothing to do with romantic love.
As for the KJV, well, it was written 400 years ago. The word "charity" has taken on different meanings today. It often means "a hand out" or "helping the poor." Language changes and moves on. So that is why charity is not used in modern versions. Simply because we speak modern English, not Middle English. I think it is sad that the word "love" has so many connotations in English, because we can lose sight of what God was really intending for us to understand about what the word "agape" really means. But I do confess, that charity doesn't have as much meaning for me as "love."
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BIBLE VERSES ABOUT AGAPE LOVE
[h=1]Bible Verses About Agape Love[/h] [h=4]Bible Verses About Agape Love from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance[/h] - Sort By Book Order
1 John 4:8 - He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. (Read More...)
Romans 5:8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
1 Corinthians 13:7 - Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1 John 4:18 - There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
John 21:15-17 - So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. (Read More...)
John 15:13 - Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
1 John 4:10 - Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.
John 14:21 - He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Luke 10:27 - And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
John 16:27 - For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
1 John 4:20-21 - If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? (Read More...)
Matthew 5:43-44 - Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. (Read More...)
1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Mark 12:30 - And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.
1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these [is] charity.
2 Corinthians 12:15 - And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.
1 Corinthians 13:6 - Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1 Corinthians 13:4 - Charity suffereth long, [and] is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Romans 13:8-10 - Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. (Read More...)
John 13:34 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Matthew 22:37 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 6:24 - No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Colossians 3:14 - And above all these things [put on] charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
Galatians 5:22-23 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, (Read More...)
1 Corinthians 13:5 - Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Romans 12:10 - [Be] kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;
John 21:17 - He saith unto him the third time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
John 21:15 - So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
John 15:12 - This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
John 13:35 - By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
John 1:1-51 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (Read More...)
Luke 11:43 - Woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye love the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets.
Matthew 23:6 - And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Matthew 22:39 - And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Psalms 85:1-13 - (To the chief Musician, A Psalm for the sons of Korah.) LORD, thou hast been favourable unto thy land: thou hast brought back the captivity of Jacob. (Read More...)
1 John 4:9-10 - In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. (Read More...)
2 Timothy 4:10 - For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
1 Corinthians 13:1-13 - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become [as] sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. (Read More...)
1 Corinthians 13:1-3 - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become [as] sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. (Read More...)
John 21:1-25 - After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he [himself]. (Read More...)
John 5:20 - For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
Mark 12:31 - And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Matthew 5:43-48 - Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. (Read More...)
1 John 4:16 - And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Leviticus 19:18 - Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.
[h=1]Bible Verses About Agape Love[/h] [h=4]Bible Verses About Agape Love from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance[/h] - Sort By Book Order
1 John 4:8 - He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. (Read More...)
Romans 5:8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
1 Corinthians 13:7 - Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1 John 4:18 - There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
John 21:15-17 - So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. (Read More...)
John 15:13 - Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
1 John 4:10 - Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.
John 14:21 - He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Luke 10:27 - And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
John 16:27 - For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
1 John 4:20-21 - If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? (Read More...)
Matthew 5:43-44 - Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. (Read More...)
1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Mark 12:30 - And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.
1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these [is] charity.
2 Corinthians 12:15 - And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.
1 Corinthians 13:6 - Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1 Corinthians 13:4 - Charity suffereth long, [and] is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Romans 13:8-10 - Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. (Read More...)
John 13:34 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Matthew 22:37 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 6:24 - No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Colossians 3:14 - And above all these things [put on] charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
Galatians 5:22-23 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, (Read More...)
1 Corinthians 13:5 - Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Romans 12:10 - [Be] kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;
John 21:17 - He saith unto him the third time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
John 21:15 - So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
John 15:12 - This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
John 13:35 - By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
John 1:1-51 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (Read More...)
Luke 11:43 - Woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye love the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets.
Matthew 23:6 - And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Matthew 22:39 - And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Psalms 85:1-13 - (To the chief Musician, A Psalm for the sons of Korah.) LORD, thou hast been favourable unto thy land: thou hast brought back the captivity of Jacob. (Read More...)
1 John 4:9-10 - In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. (Read More...)
2 Timothy 4:10 - For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
1 Corinthians 13:1-13 - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become [as] sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. (Read More...)
1 Corinthians 13:1-3 - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become [as] sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. (Read More...)
John 21:1-25 - After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he [himself]. (Read More...)
John 5:20 - For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
Mark 12:31 - And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Matthew 5:43-48 - Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. (Read More...)
1 John 4:16 - And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Leviticus 19:18 - Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.
The very instant God's Holy Spirit entered into me, I knew Love. I knew He is Love, and when I see no matter what word approaching that knowledge, be it love or charity, I know it is God, Yahweh.
Granted I am a Hebrew student and am going through the Word for the first time in Hebrew. Knowing Hebrew or Greek does not help in understanding spiritual matters, although for some, perhaps many, knowing either or both of these languages does underscore what the Holy Spirit has already taught them.
I know Hebrew has done this for me. So why or how can a word, Love or Charity, be a cause for much discussion? You believe Jesus, Yeshua? You already know all there is to know about love (charis, charity).
Granted I am a Hebrew student and am going through the Word for the first time in Hebrew. Knowing Hebrew or Greek does not help in understanding spiritual matters, although for some, perhaps many, knowing either or both of these languages does underscore what the Holy Spirit has already taught them.
I know Hebrew has done this for me. So why or how can a word, Love or Charity, be a cause for much discussion? You believe Jesus, Yeshua? You already know all there is to know about love (charis, charity).
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here are some good articles I found on Agape love:
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/78-the-challenge-of-agape-love
Right From The Heart Ministries - What Is Agape Love, Anyway?
Agape
http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/prima...alAssemblyofthe NationalCouncilofChurches.pdf
well they look promising when i skimmed them
will read them over breakfast.
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/78-the-challenge-of-agape-love
Right From The Heart Ministries - What Is Agape Love, Anyway?
Agape
http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/prima...alAssemblyofthe NationalCouncilofChurches.pdf
well they look promising when i skimmed them
will read them over breakfast.
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one could discuss the true meaning and use of the word in the Bible.
or there could be a discussion about HOW someone express agape love to the world or how God has express that type of love to YOU in your life.
Or many many other questions that would help edify and uplift those who partake and those who just watch and listen to the discussion.
Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
or there could be a discussion about HOW someone express agape love to the world or how God has express that type of love to YOU in your life.
Or many many other questions that would help edify and uplift those who partake and those who just watch and listen to the discussion.
Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
It's translated 'love' most of the time (75% of the time).
To be honest I think this is an example of the monks of 1611 getting it wrong.
Either that or the meaning of the word has moved away from what it meant then.
Or maybe one of the monks liked using the word 'charity' - it's a translation and so from men. We all make mistakes.
That's one of the issues when one sticks to a translation that was first made even before there was a standard way of writing in English. Though they release revised editions they cannot change much because of those that think the words cannot be changed. We even see it today - people who will say it cannot mean love because the KJV says it's charity...
To be honest I think this is an example of the monks of 1611 getting it wrong.
Either that or the meaning of the word has moved away from what it meant then.
Or maybe one of the monks liked using the word 'charity' - it's a translation and so from men. We all make mistakes.
That's one of the issues when one sticks to a translation that was first made even before there was a standard way of writing in English. Though they release revised editions they cannot change much because of those that think the words cannot be changed. We even see it today - people who will say it cannot mean love because the KJV says it's charity...
Perhaps my approach is too simplistic, but I do believe when we share the Gospel there is no greater love possible. God is Love, at any level except for what many confuse sex with. God is love, so there is no greater love to share. I suppose, as did our Savior, if we lay down our lives for others this is most definitely an act of love, providing we have love from the Lord.
Now, that being said, I see it a reasonable conversation to discuss active and passive manners of love, and how it may be expressed, but I yet view it as indwelling and shared by our new nature.
Many times in Hebrew the word for grace is the same as love, but then, like in most languages, there are many words for love.. Yahweh, God bless you always in His great Love for you, and may your love for Him increase by the day and for all the family in Yeshua, amen...(Pray this for me too if you are of a mind to do so..)
Now, that being said, I see it a reasonable conversation to discuss active and passive manners of love, and how it may be expressed, but I yet view it as indwelling and shared by our new nature.
Many times in Hebrew the word for grace is the same as love, but then, like in most languages, there are many words for love.. Yahweh, God bless you always in His great Love for you, and may your love for Him increase by the day and for all the family in Yeshua, amen...(Pray this for me too if you are of a mind to do so..)
The word charity can only be translated to agape in greek. There is no word for charity in hebrew. However for the word love in greek there are dozens of different words for love.
So to translate it from the greek...charity is not a mistake but specific. Chosen by the original writers not the translators.
So to translate it from the greek...charity is not a mistake but specific. Chosen by the original writers not the translators.
Not really! As I have already said, there are 4 words for love in Greek, three of which are used in the Bible
Agape - the love God has for us, and we should have for others.
Eros - sexual love
Philos - brotherly love
The following word is NOT used in the Bible
Storge - familial love such as the love of a parent towards their child.
Here is a link that might give a bit more information.
The Four Loves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As for Hebrew, probably chesed, חסד, which is usually translated "mercy" comes closest to the ideal of agape. But some major differences, I agree.
So no, the original writers chose agape, charity was the choice of the KJV translators. I think you need to study Greek and Hebrew before you make such erroneous statements as charity was the original word, when that is the ENGLISH word that translators chose, NOT the Greek word "agape."
Agape - the love God has for us, and we should have for others.
Eros - sexual love
Philos - brotherly love
The following word is NOT used in the Bible
Storge - familial love such as the love of a parent towards their child.
Here is a link that might give a bit more information.
The Four Loves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As for Hebrew, probably chesed, חסד, which is usually translated "mercy" comes closest to the ideal of agape. But some major differences, I agree.
So no, the original writers chose agape, charity was the choice of the KJV translators. I think you need to study Greek and Hebrew before you make such erroneous statements as charity was the original word, when that is the ENGLISH word that translators chose, NOT the Greek word "agape."
That is because we have confused love with mere affection. An affection can exist latent and not acted upon other than felt by it's possessor. But they are important when used properly as they show the measure of tenderness toward the object of the affection.
In reality if agape is not entwined into those affections then those affections can become harmful.
In reality if agape is not entwined into those affections then those affections can become harmful.
Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt agapao thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, agapao your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew 5:46 For if ye agapao them which agapao you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they phileo to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and agapao the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Matthew 10:37 He that phileo father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that phileo son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Matthew 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt agapao thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt agapao the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt agapao thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 23:6 And phileo the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the agape of many shall wax cold.
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, agapao your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew 5:46 For if ye agapao them which agapao you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they phileo to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and agapao the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Matthew 10:37 He that phileo father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that phileo son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Matthew 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt agapao thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt agapao the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt agapao thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 23:6 And phileo the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the agape of many shall wax cold.
Mark 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him agape him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt agape the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mark 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt agape thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mark 12:33 And to agape him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to agape his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Mark 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which thelo to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt agape the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mark 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt agape thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mark 12:33 And to agape him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to agape his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Mark 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which thelo to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
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Sorry, I messed up on Mark. Everywhere it says agape it should say agapao.
Mark 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him agapao him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt agapao the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mark 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt agapao thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mark 12:33 And to agapao him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to agapao his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Mark 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which thelo to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
Mark 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him agapao him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt agapao the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mark 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt agapao thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mark 12:33 And to agapao him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to agapao his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Mark 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which thelo to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
Luke 6:27 ¶But I say unto you which hear, agapao your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Luke 6:32 For if ye agapao them which agapao you, what thank have ye? for sinners also agapao those that agapao them.
Luke 6:35 But agapao ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Luke 7:5 For he agapao our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.
Luke 7:42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will agapao him most?
Luke 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she agapao much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same agapao little.
Luke 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt agapao the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the agape of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and agapao the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke 20:46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and phileo greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
Now I have separated one occurrence here so that I can speak about it:
Luke 11:43 Woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye agapao the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets.
I have mentioned in the past that much of the work that I do seems to always end up being literally face to face with various scholars, some of which are delighted at the broadened perspective, but a few of which seek with mounds of sweat to overturn what I have said about the other forms being of the nature of mere affections and needing to be entwined with agapao to prevent their perversion.
Luke 11:43 is one that a certain one of these scholars threw in my face as he scoffed at me. But it is because his heart is full of competition and resentment that he has not the spirit to understand.
There at Luke 11:43 the thought is that they give what ought to be given to God and neighbor to these things rather than to God and their neighbor.
It is shear nonsense to dismiss the overwhelming proof that agape and it's expressed form agapao is the godly form of perfect love. The thing about agape is it's ability to be shown as an unbreakable loyalty that truly cares about God or neighbor. Those pharisees felt that strong about their phileo (as it was said to be at Matthew 23:6) of having those prominent seats. thus the thought in Luke's mind there is to make highlight that they give to those things what belongs to God, thus robbing God.
When we get to John 3:19 we see that men did this same thing with their love of darkness. They give the love to darkness that belongs to God.
So yes, agapao can be missed aimed and therefore misused. I never said it could not be abused as my self-righteous accusers make it out. I said that it takes godly love to keep our affections healthy and that we see this in that Peter never once flinched as though Jesus had asked him three times if Peter loved him, using phileo one time and agapao another at John 21:15-17. And I said that is because they are essentially meant to be used together with that godly agapao when properly aimed keeping the phileo honorable, the same is it would for the sexual form of affection or any of the forms of affection.
Now, it is nothing to mean if anyone wants to discount what I have said. I am nobody. So I just laugh when they do to me as that particular scholar tried to do in front of a group to try to embarrass me. But it is ashamed that some would rather play games of pride than be edified.
Luke 6:32 For if ye agapao them which agapao you, what thank have ye? for sinners also agapao those that agapao them.
Luke 6:35 But agapao ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Luke 7:5 For he agapao our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.
Luke 7:42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will agapao him most?
Luke 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she agapao much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same agapao little.
Luke 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt agapao the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the agape of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and agapao the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke 20:46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and phileo greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
Now I have separated one occurrence here so that I can speak about it:
Luke 11:43 Woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye agapao the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets.
I have mentioned in the past that much of the work that I do seems to always end up being literally face to face with various scholars, some of which are delighted at the broadened perspective, but a few of which seek with mounds of sweat to overturn what I have said about the other forms being of the nature of mere affections and needing to be entwined with agapao to prevent their perversion.
Luke 11:43 is one that a certain one of these scholars threw in my face as he scoffed at me. But it is because his heart is full of competition and resentment that he has not the spirit to understand.
There at Luke 11:43 the thought is that they give what ought to be given to God and neighbor to these things rather than to God and their neighbor.
It is shear nonsense to dismiss the overwhelming proof that agape and it's expressed form agapao is the godly form of perfect love. The thing about agape is it's ability to be shown as an unbreakable loyalty that truly cares about God or neighbor. Those pharisees felt that strong about their phileo (as it was said to be at Matthew 23:6) of having those prominent seats. thus the thought in Luke's mind there is to make highlight that they give to those things what belongs to God, thus robbing God.
When we get to John 3:19 we see that men did this same thing with their love of darkness. They give the love to darkness that belongs to God.
So yes, agapao can be missed aimed and therefore misused. I never said it could not be abused as my self-righteous accusers make it out. I said that it takes godly love to keep our affections healthy and that we see this in that Peter never once flinched as though Jesus had asked him three times if Peter loved him, using phileo one time and agapao another at John 21:15-17. And I said that is because they are essentially meant to be used together with that godly agapao when properly aimed keeping the phileo honorable, the same is it would for the sexual form of affection or any of the forms of affection.
Now, it is nothing to mean if anyone wants to discount what I have said. I am nobody. So I just laugh when they do to me as that particular scholar tried to do in front of a group to try to embarrass me. But it is ashamed that some would rather play games of pride than be edified.
If agape should be translated as charity, why did the KJV monks translate it as 'love' 75% of the time?
The point is, it didn't even have to do with context. They have used charity on occasion - for no tangible reason.
That is why people since then most have translated it exclusively as 'love' - like the 1611 monks did most of the time.
The thing is, the English language has moved on. Charity now means something else. The meaning it may have had 400 years ago is no longer the case.
It is a perfect example of where the KJV is a poor translation for use today. How many people reading their KJV in a country where English is a second language (or even a first) would read it and think "ah that doesn't mean charity it means unconditional love" ? None. It is confusing. It is out-of-date. I question whether people should use it except for comparative studies.
The point is, it didn't even have to do with context. They have used charity on occasion - for no tangible reason.
That is why people since then most have translated it exclusively as 'love' - like the 1611 monks did most of the time.
The thing is, the English language has moved on. Charity now means something else. The meaning it may have had 400 years ago is no longer the case.
It is a perfect example of where the KJV is a poor translation for use today. How many people reading their KJV in a country where English is a second language (or even a first) would read it and think "ah that doesn't mean charity it means unconditional love" ? None. It is confusing. It is out-of-date. I question whether people should use it except for comparative studies.