1 corinthians 6:9-10

[Kerry]

My opinion is this. Sexual sin of any kind is a sorta pet peeve with God. For instance by studying His word, He seems to be more tolerant to sins of impulse. Say, anger, jealousy, gluttony, greed, and so forth. The only cities that He just outright destroyed were Sodom, Gomorrah, Pompei. Why because of homosexuality, and He goes on further to say, that those who condone such are more guilty than those who are involved in the action.

Now we are to love the homsexual, but hate homosexuality. If we condone such a thing we risk God destroying our city, state, or nation.

The fault lies clearly on the church because the church mainly (not all) has rejected the preaching of the cross and embraced mans intellect. As a result, we have gay's marching in the street, demanding there rights and a government that is behind them. This is leading to a bad situation for us in America. Think of it 7% of our population is dictating policy to us. There is a fly in the ointment somewhere and it starts at the church.

 

[FIRE_of_ELIJAH]

I agree with you, but shouldn't it also be a clear warning regarding all the other sins as well? And why do we cast judgment so quickly? It is not for us to judge those that are still in the world, it is our job to witness, we plant the seed and God waters it, how can a seed be planted when we speak in condemnation? A seed is planted in love, if you garden, you are careful, not rough, the same should be applied when planting a seed of faith, in hope that they will come to Christ. And the only people we are to judge is fellow believers, but again we correct them with love

Hey pretty lady !! No one is judging here. I didn't judge or curse someone who are different from my perspective. I'm aware the fact that no one is perfect. How can we judge when we were once a sinner? and it's because the grace and gift of God the reason why we got saved. As a believers ,it's our responsibility to tell others about the truth about the saving Grace of the Lord, about how to live holy and blameless lives. And the COURAGE to say No to homosexual practices as well as other sins. Preach it with no SUGAR COATING involved. Let alone the Bible be the judge !! I'm pretty sure the society will hate you,will ridicule you. Jesus offended people because He preach the truth!! are you ready for that like Jesus did?

God bless you sister

 

[Kerry]

I forgot to mention that homosexuality was a plan hatched by satan in an effort to stop the birth of Christ. No wonder He hates it so much!!!!!!!!!!

 

[my_adonai_]

Don't you realize that those WHO DO WRONG will not inherit the kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves, those who indulge in SEXUAL SIN or who WORSHIP IDOLS, COMMIT ADULTERY, DRUNKARDS, ARE ABUSIVE, MALE PROSTITUTES, HOMOSEXUALS, THIEVES, GREEDY PEOPLE, CHEATERS, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God

I used caps for an obvious (I hope) reason, why is it when we look at this scripture we really only take note of homosexuals not inheriting the kingdom of God, if we know that God is not partial, no sin is above another (except blasphemy of the holy spirit) why are we so fired up against homosexuality? I have never seen christians picket against politicians when we know they are greedy, liars, and cheaters. Could it be homosexuals disgust us? Is it because that sin is in your face? Honestly, why aren't we so against people that "do wrong, idol worship etc" or is it because we ourselves are listed in this scripture, but we would prefer to point out someone else's sin, rather than work on our own? Hmmm, something to ponder

Well on a positive vote, they are atleast hating a particular sin rather than entertaining it. and on a negative note some do point fingers ona self righteous scale or somehow feel i point my fingers on a particular sin then i might be safe. Which is hypocritical because "He that is without sin, cast the first stone", ie on that very scale that you judge others, does GOD consider you safe before HIS eyes.?. i believe thats how righteous judgement gets by, whereby on a self basis you are safe because the LORD declares you safe, and if we do point fingers, then we know we have entered into the unsafe, because rebuking should be done to prove CHRIST right and not US in such a way that it does not condemn people (their unbelief takes care of that), but bring them to Christ.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted . (take out the plank in your eye first, then deal with the beam in anothers)

Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. (love your neighbour as you love yourself).

Gal 6:3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
Gal 6:4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
Gal 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.
Gal 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. (get help from elders or those who are mature in Christ).
Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.




Gotta Love the Word of GOD..

 

[my_adonai_]

Respect is awesome, it becomes hard to live with those who do not have the same faiths as you because you take it upon yourself to want to change them. or in your eyes because you are in the right path, then that can get one haughty and just see others as bad, evil, and seriously at times see them as demons.

But when we get the eyes of Christ, those eyes where you see salvation when that heart see condemnation, where you see hope, when they have already given up. JESUS came to SAVE, not condemned. when people do not choose Christ we do not need to make them feel bad about it, their choice has already made it bad for them.

So what do we need to? Love, love hoping that one day that soul will be saved.

Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:

Gotta love the way the Lord dealt with that prostitute, the law judged HIM to be STONED, but JESUS said "neither do i condemn you, go and sin no more", and this woman must have like gone home crying, sobbing and saying "WHAT A MAN, TRULY THIS IS THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD, TRULY HE IS THE MESSIAH", why GOD saw the beauty of HIS image, the soul of that woman, and how much value she was, and said what HE said. Glory to you JEHOVAH, and sin was taken care of at the cross, what GOD is building is our faith on His finished work. and how daily that we should be renewed our minds.

 

[pickles]

I cannot speak to those that hate and judge.
But just as you ask why say only the homosexual is singled out or hated?
The christian who speaks against the sin is seen as a hater of the homosexual.
Saddly both are lumped together and judged unfairly.
I hate the sin, as any sin that steals salvation is hated.
But the world today is calling for aproval of this sin, and condemning any who speak against it.
I do not hate the one who sins, wether it is one who is homosexual or adultress or other sin that bring death.
It is because of the love we know in Jesus, that one will speak against this sin, or any other sin.
To see more each day being taught that this is acceptible, and the truth burried in the lies of acceptance, open mindedness, teaching that any who speak otherwise are hateful and bigoted.
This bring sorrow to those who love and follow Jesus.
We are not called to hate any person, for we all have sinned.
My heart aches to witness to the truth that is Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh, and aches even more to see the world teach our children that this or any sin is ok.
I have watched my nephew, whom I love, slowly sink into the depths of sin and the corruption that consumes Him.
For the sin of homosexuality has opened doors to many sins, and it is not just killing his body, but destroying his soul.
He knows he is loved, and many times we have watched him try to turn his life back to Jesus, only to watch those who approve of the sin, consume and steal healing away from Him.
Because of the world's approval, and the abolishment of any word against homosexuality, this battle is being slowly lost.
I believe scripture speaks strongly to this sin and others like it, because these sins consume and steal one's life.
Yes, sin does bring death to all who are not saved.
But I have watched the sins spoken to, steal, destroy and kill more quickly, holding the sinner slave to the obomanations listed.
Saddly, there are those who, as you have said, judge and hate the sinner, when we are told to hate the sin, and pray for the sinner .
But just as sad is the blanket statement that if one hates homosexuality, they must hate the person.
When homosexuality today is about battling an approved sin, one the world even now will praise for coming out and showing off.
It is this sin and its aproval that is hated, for it can cause many to be lost.
It is the love given in Jesus, that brings all to hate sin, and fight to save the sinner.

God bless
pickles

 

[4enlightment]

I forgot to mention that homosexuality was a plan hatched by satan in an effort to stop the birth of Christ. No wonder He hates it so much!!!!!!!!!!

Exodus 1:16“When you are helping the Hebrew women during childbirth on the delivery stool, if you see that the baby is a boy, kill him; but if it is a girl, let her live.”

Matthew 2:16When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under, in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi.

Mark 3:29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

 

[4enlightment]

Actually there is a lot more going on in this scripture, the Pharasies brought the woman to Jesus to test Him, and what did Jesus say?
he who is without sin, cast the first stone

Yes, and which Jesus had known that they were all sinners especially for them to have empathy for her partner ( The man) that she committed this act with; and which all party must stand before the judge in order to be sentence. But for some odd reason they had understood the man. So basically they were bias on their judgement as we are today.

 

[BradC]

I believe that human nature will always repel, in some measure, against those things that are unnatural and against nature. We all know that a man is made for a woman and a woman for a man. Outside of that it would be unnatural and any affection or fondness would be inordinate and unacceptable. That which is unnatural, inordinate and unacceptable is going to be resisted mentally, intellectually, psychologically, physiologically, biologically and freely without compromise. So many simply resist and reject the obvious and have to take their position by force searing their conscience.

 

[Radius]

Not that I take part in those sins listed in the verse given by the OP, but for one that IS saved and DOES partake in one or more of those sins, what is the cut off line? Does it have to be habitual to not be able to inherit the Kingdom of God? Once a year/monthy/weekly?

 

[4enlightment]

I believe that human nature will always repel, in some measure, against those things that are unnatural and against nature. We all know that a man is made for a woman and a woman for a man. Outside of that it would be unnatural and any affection or fondness would be inordinate and unacceptable. That which is unnatural, inordinate and unacceptable is going to be resisted mentally, intellectually, psychologically, physiologically, biologically and freely without compromise. So many simply resist and reject the obvious and have to take their position by force searing their conscience.

It says that we are raised into sin and which we accepted it as a natural act; but this act hasn't been introduce or it was hidden until now ( but the others we had gotten acquainted with). But we must realize that these distortion comes from the devil and which he going to be the one to be judged for these acts. But for us to become clean from all these acts, we must let Christ slowly remove these acts from us by growing in His word; but not through harshness with words which causes people to rebel and which bring in more sins, but by showing love and patience to others. Nobody condemn a sick person for being sick, but instead they treat them until they becomes well.

Matthew 9:12On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.

Matthew 8:16When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick.

Romans 10:17Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

 

[Kerry]

He that was and is without sin casted fire and brimstone on Sodom, Gomorrah, their surrounding cities and Pompeii ( 79 A.D.)

 

[carey]

I completely agree with you, everything you said actually reminds me of a saying I like
Just because something is socially acceptable, doesn't make it morally right

I believe alot of the problem today is that people seem to think we are more tolerant to other sins, and not tolerant of others. The fact is how many of us inadvertently condone adultery, and fornication yet condemn homosexuality? People have been in an uproar about homosexual marriage, and throw the bible at people while they completely accept other sins. None of it is right. It is hypocritical. Yet though laws have been passed, and people are "covered" because of rights this does not mean that we as Christians morally approve of the lives they live. Just because some situations are legal, and acceptable also doesn't mean we should sit back and allow other sins to take over, and infiltrate our own lives. As individuals we have the right to approve or disapprove of others choices. This by no means is an excuse to discriminate against others to where they are second class citizens. This isn't intolerance. This isn't hate. This is living by the Word of God.

 

[carey]

I actually heard a theory that the woman's partner was one of the Pharasies, which is why only the woman was brought to Jesus, we won't know if it's true, but very interesting

Yes, and which Jesus had known that they were all sinners especially for them to have empathy for her partner ( The man) that she committed this act with; and which all party must stand before the judge in order to be sentence. But for some odd reason they had understood the man. So basically they were bias on their judgement as we are today.

 

[carey]

Not that I take part in those sins listed in the verse given by the OP, but for one that IS saved and DOES partake in one or more of those sins, what is the cut off line? Does it have to be habitual to not be able to inherit the Kingdom of God? Once a year/monthy/weekly?

I think that a believer that comits these sins, weither it's habitual or not, in the beginning, the holy spirit will convict them of their sin, but if they don't repent and change their ways, is when we must step in, but follow what the Bible teaches us, first take them to the side and confront the sin, if they don't repent, bring another believer and confront the sin again, if they still do not repent, bring the matter before the church, and so on,, but the sad thing is, in the church today, we see habitual sin and do nothing, I firmly believe, the church must change, way too many people are being decieved into believing they can go on sinning, because hey, God is a God of love, He understands your heart is in the right place, that is extremely deceitful, God is a God of love, but He is also a holy God, a just God, it really gets under my skin that people are only preaching half truths.

 

[BradC]

When a woman has an abortion, because she does not want that child, do we identify and understand her situation and hope she won't do that again? Yet it has been condoned by our written laws, by an amendment of the constitution and by the bill of rights. Is it a sinful or disapproved act of the conscience to abort a child fetus from the womb or is it permissible because the law, the constitution and the bill of rights to permit it? According to 1 Cor 6:9,10, will all those who conceive in the womb and abort this conception of human life, that God has given, inherit the kingdom of God? If conception takes place through an act of adultery or some form of fornication (including rape), does this give any the right to abort this conception of life that God has given in the womb? With many who have had an abortion, there has been much horror and regret associated with guilt in the conscience for following through with this act and many have chosen never do it again and even refrained from the lifestyle that precipitated it. Does our own conscience permit this egregious act of abortion against human life or do we condemn it will every fiber of our being? We have to go all the way and condemn it if we believe it to an egregious act of the human will, to do anything less would be doublemindedness.

The list in 1 Cor 6 involves all those who continue with these different lifestyles associated with the flesh and the lust thereof. Those involved will not turn away or turn off from these. They have conformed their thinking, their imaginations, their conscience and the way they live and conduct their life with these lifestyles of the flesh. They have no conviction because their conscience has been seared and cauterized with the hardness of the lusts of the flesh. Think of how 'the morning after pill' is giving permission to engage and practice immorality at any age level and provides relief from the consequence and fear of becoming pregnant or doing something wrong outside of marriage. It does nothing for STD's but provides another means to take viginity away from our young by becoming promiscuous and condones a continued lifestyle of the many forms of fornication for others. A conscience becomes seared after many attempts have been made by God to bring conviction in through the light. The first time the light came it was strong but rejected and the conscience was cauterized or seared over with a measure of hardness. It came again and was rejected and more searing took place. Each time the light of conviction came and was rejected the strength of that conviction grew weaker and weaker because the conscience grew harder and harder. Finally, because of the love of God, conviction came one more time but made no impression because of the great hardness that was upon the heart and conscience. Those who kept rejecting the light of God's conviction grew their own conscience which became reprobate or one disapproved of God and of those who serve the living God. JUST MY THOUGHTS

 

[Bertle]

I don't understand how we can expect people that are 'of the world' to NOT sin or to stand against sin! Our mandate is to bring/show the world that the saving Grace of God is for them through Jesus, that this is the truth and to show His light to them so that they can see. Only then will they be convicted by the Holy Spirit as to what is and is not sin.

I don't believe it is our place to point out sin to individuals, whatever it may be. I do believe we should pray for our lawmakers and leaders.

My morality and beliefs are grounded in God's Word and shaped by the Holy Spirit because I am 'not of this world' but of the Kingdom of God, I cannot expect anyone who is of another kingdom to go by the standards of mine. All I can do is live a life that invites them to want to live in mine.

 

[BradC]

People will sin because they are sinners, that's for sure. We can't point to our own lives to get others to believe but we can point them to Christ's life who shed his blood for their sin that they might be justified when they believe. However, the Holy Spirit must convict their heart of sin and the separation associated with that sin. If there is no conviction of sin then there is no grounds for reconciliation. We don't have to condemn a sinner because they are condemned already with the wrath of God upon them. When the Holy Spirit convicts their hearts of sin then we point them to Christ who paid for their sin and can wash them clean through his blood. The blood was shed for the remission of sin. Conviction of sin comes first, then faith toward the sacrifice of Christ and then the blood can wash and take away the sin all the way to the conscience so that the sinner can be reconciled to God and justified with that blood by removing condemnation and wrath forever.

 

[carey]

If we do not point out someone's sin how are they to know that their in need of a saviour? I'm sorry but I do not believe in this new stand of the church that refuses to tell someone their in sin, and they are on their way to hell, the church has started to become complacent in their duties! Just because something is permissable does not make it right, drinking is permissable, but I know it will lead me down the path of unrighteousness, so I don't do it, if someone never told me I.was in sin and in need of a saviour, I would still be living by the worlds standards, a standard that says if it feels good, it must be ok, the church is failing the people in this world by becoming seeker friendly

 

[carey]

I just noticed the thread "all homosexuals go to hell " using the same scripture I used, that is the judgemental attitude I'm talking about! I am very glad to see the amazing responses to this thread, it just frustrates me so much when christians look at scripture like this, some single out one sin above another, just because you don't agree with someone's lifestyle does not mean that you hold back God's love for them! Yes we show them their sin, but we let them know there is a way out, everything we do must be done in love and truth!
sorry for ranting, but this really upsets me
God bless, my brothers and sisters!