10 commandments?

[4enlightment]

Uh, can you show me the Commandment about washing your hands?

Okay, when a person touch a carcass of a swine, like a butcher; that person is unclean until the next day. But that person must stay away from the camp or he will contaminate the camp also. If a woman that is on her monthly purification cycle, must stay away as well. But before coming in the camp, they must take a bath to rid themselves from all the impurities that was on the body. I can see that there is a lot of people that hasn't been practicing the laws of Moses in order for them to not understand. After hearing some of the process of keeping the laws, do you think that you can follow them without breaking them?

Numbers 12:14The Lord replied to Moses, “If her father had spit in her face, would she not have been in disgrace for seven days? Confine her outside the camp for seven days; after that she can be brought back.”

Leviticus 11:24“‘You will make yourselves unclean by these; whoever touches their carcasses will be unclean till evening.

Numbers 19:9“A man who is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer and put them in a ceremonially clean place outside the camp. They are to be kept by the Israelite community for use in the water of cleansing; it is for purification from sin.

John 13:10 Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet ( because their feet has came into contact with impurities, Just as they are not to shake hands with the pagans); their whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you.” 11 For he knew who was going to betray him,and that was why he said not every one was clean.

So basically the Jews have to walk around as they are walking on eggshells, because they were living among the pagans and violators of the laws.

 

[Josh321]

if your reading the bible with a heresy on your mind you will never see anything else different than just that, how can anyone tell me to follow something after experiencing what it means for the law to be fulfilled in me and from seeing the same thing from others? people put their trust in dead works too much.. deny yourself and surrender yo the cross daily, not the commandments daily... if you truly are born again you would feel the effects on your entire being of what it means for the law to be fulfilled in US not BY us that is why we must run back to God daily not anything else only God and the cross so he can keep us strong and keep that light burning

 

[john832]

Sure. Help your neighbor round up his cattle and mend a hole in his fence that his cattle escaped through on the sabbath.

Faith and love are above the law. Christ is lord of the sabbath. Only carnal people obsess over the letter. GOD is interested in obedience to the spirit.

If you are looking for an exception, there are much better places to look than that. The Law covers it...

Luk 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.
Luk 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
Luk 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Note the first 4 commandments are not mentioned hmmm does that mean we can commit idoltry , take God name in vain etc

The first 4 commandments are fulfilled by what Jesus said in verse 21: 'Come and follow me.'

 

[Isdaniel]

if your reading the bible with a heresy on your mind you will never see anything else different than just that, how can anyone tell me to follow something after experiencing what it means for the law to be fulfilled in me and from seeing the same thing from others? people put their trust in dead works too much.. deny yourself and surrender yo the cross daily, not the commandments daily... if you truly are born again you would feel the effects on your entire being of what it means for the law to be fulfilled in US not BY us that is why we must run back to God daily not anything else only God and the cross so he can keep us strong and keep that light burning

Are you saying the law is to be done away / fulfilled in you ?

 

[john832]

Okay, when a person touch a carcass of a swine, like a butcher; that person is unclean until the next day. But that person must stay away from the camp or he will contaminate the camp also. If a woman that is on her monthly purification cycle, must stay away as well. But before coming in the camp, they must take a bath to rid themselves from all the impurities that was on the body. I can see that there is a lot of people that hasn't been practicing the laws of Moses in order for them to not understand. After hearing some of the process of keeping the laws, do you think that you can follow them without breaking them?
Numbers 12:14The Lord replied to Moses, “If her father had spit in her face, would she not have been in disgrace for seven days? Confine her outside the camp for seven days; after that she can be brought back.”

Leviticus 11:24“‘You will make yourselves unclean by these; whoever touches their carcasses will be unclean till evening.

Numbers 19:9“A man who is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer and put them in a ceremonially clean place outside the camp. They are to be kept by the Israelite community for use in the water of cleansing; it is for purification from sin.

John 13:10 Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet ( because their feet has came into contact with impurities, Just as they are not to shake hands with the pagans); their whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you.” 11 For he knew who was going to betray him,and that was why he said not every one was clean.

So basically the Jews have to walk around as they are walking on eggshells, because they were living among the pagans and violators of the laws.

OK, now admit it, the Pharisees TRADITION about eating with unwashed hands is not a Commandment after all, it was their tradition...

Mar 7:1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
Mar 7:2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
Mar 7:3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
Mar 7:4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

 

[john832]

The first 4 commandments are fulfilled by what Jesus said in verse 21: 'Come and follow me.'

Does the word non-sequitor mean anything to you?

 

[Isdaniel]

The first 4 commandments are fulfilled by what Jesus said in verse 21: 'Come and follow me.'

that is so funny how you come up with these things hey do not add or take away

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead
The first 4 commandments are fulfilled by what Jesus said in verse 21: 'Come and follow me.'

Does the word non-sequitor mean anything to you?

Thus is the carnal mind...

 

[Isdaniel]

The first 4 commandments are fulfilled by what Jesus said in verse 21: 'Come and follow me.'

Are you saying that the first four commandments are done away by what Jesus said hmm the word fufilled means done away right

 

[4enlightment]

OK, now admit it, the Pharisees TRADITION about eating with unwashed hands is not a Commandment after all, it was their tradition...

Mar 7:1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
Mar 7:2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
Mar 7:3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
Mar 7:4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

They were doing what they suppose to have done when they came into contact with defile things or door knobs. And yes Moses was a man that had made the laws of keeping up the flesh so that it can be presentable before God. He was making sure that they have put on their Sunday Best. But now God isn't looking at how nicely presentable the very thing that He has created became on the outside, but He is focusing on what's on the inside, instead.

Matthew 23:27“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.

John 6:63The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.

 

[john832]

I found this interesting...

The Strange Tale of Simon the Magician | United Church of God

 

[4enlightment]

I found this interesting...

The Strange Tale of Simon the Magician | United Church of God

If you want to slander someone, you shouldn't put as your representative, someone that's hunger and thirst for money. I don't no who is Simon, but the ones that are speaking about him look like they are weary that it might have some effect of their contributions from their blind followers. Just imagine how much money a person can get from a single blind man that needs guidance. There are people out here that want people to be kept in the dark, in order to use them. Murder is done almost every day, but who can stand up before the beast and tell him not to cause wars that lead other to go into battle to protect themselves and their land. I guess that one laws that been broken many of times. Lucky God has given us Mercy, because He understand that it is impossible to keep the laws in these times. So do you want Someone to pass over your sins? The Blood will cover over your door post as well if you pass over others that committed sins against you.

 

[Josh321]

Are you saying the law is to be done away / fulfilled in you ?

[h=3]Ephesians 2:15[/h]King James Version (KJV)

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

pay close attention to that right there " contained in ordinances" what this is saying here is the abolished the act of it, before christ died everyone was in ORDINANCES to the commandments but after he died and fulfilled we are no longer in ordinances to follow it through the flesh and in an act of doing it, all we must do is receive the holy spirit and God will do the rest, the fulfillment of the lord is done when we receive salvation and through the holy spirit, you asked the question and i showed you by the scriptures

 

[Isdaniel]

Ephesians 2:15

King James Version (KJV)

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

pay close attention to that right there " contained in ordinances" what this is saying here is the abolished the act of it, before christ died everyone was in ORDINANCES to the commandments but after he died and fulfilled we are no longer in ordinances to follow it through the flesh and in an act of doing it, all we must do is receive the holy spirit and God will do the rest, the fulfillment of the lord is done when we receive salvation and through the holy spirit, you asked the question and i showed you by the scriptures

So long you took to find this verse hmmm lets see what are the ordinaces there ?

Are they the ten commandments ?


Hmmm lets see does fulfill mean done away also in Matthew

Matthew 3

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Thought provoking isnt it because man say the word fufilled means to done way only yet hmmm i wonder if baptism is done away also

 

[4enlightment]

So long you took to find this verse hmmm lets see what are the ordinaces there ?

Are they the ten commandments ?


Hmmm lets see does fulfill mean done away also in Matthew

Matthew 3

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Thought provoking isnt it because man say the word fufilled means to done way only yet hmmm i wonder if baptism is done away also

Yes, it isn't done away with, but no one is unable to follow them also because it say that there's no one is without sin. The laws are there for us to show how much we need to be careful on judging others. But we should be more understanding, because we can't fulfill them all as well. David has judged himself by thinking that he was sinless, and anyone that thinks that they are sinless will be judge by there own words. So basically no one shouldn't judge.

2Samuel 12:5 David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan, “As surely as the Lord lives, the man who did this must die! 6 He must pay for that lamb four times over, because he did such a thing and had no pity.”7 Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more. 9 Why did you despise the word of the Lord by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites. 10 Now, therefore, the sword will never depart from your house, because you despised me and took the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your own.’

And David pleaded for mercy and didn't received it.


2 Samuel 12:13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”
Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the Lord, the son born to you will die.”
15 After Nathan had gone home, the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. 16 David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackcloth on the ground. 17 The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.
18 On the seventh day the child died. David’s attendants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they thought, “While the child was still living, he wouldn’t listen to us when we spoke to him. How can we now tell him the child is dead? He may do something desperate.”
19 David noticed that his attendants were whispering among themselves, and he realized the child was dead. “Is the child dead?” he asked.
“Yes,” they replied, “he is dead.”
20 Then David got up from the ground. After he had washed, put on lotions and changed his clothes,he went into the house of the Lord and worshiped. Then he went to his own house, and at his request they served him food, and he ate.
21 His attendants asked him, “Why are you acting this way? While the child was alive, you fasted and wept, but now that the child is dead, you get up and eat!”
22 He answered, “While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept. I thought, ‘Who knows? The Lordmay be gracious to me and let the child live.’ 23 But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.”


Matthew 13:17
For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.

Luke 7:48Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

 

[Isdaniel]

Yes, it isn't done away with, but no one is unable to follow them also because it say that there's no one is without sin. The laws are there for us to show how much we need to be careful on judging others. But we should be more understanding, because we can't fulfill them all as well. David has judged himself by thinking that he was sinless, and anyone that thinks that they are sinless will be judge by there own words. So basically no one shouldn't judge.

2Samuel 12:5 David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan, “As surely as the Lord lives, the man who did this must die! 6 He must pay for that lamb four times over, because he did such a thing and had no pity.”7 Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more. 9 Why did you despise the word of the Lord by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites. 10 Now, therefore, the sword will never depart from your house, because you despised me and took the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your own.’

And David pleaded for mercy and didn't received it.


2 Samuel 12:13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”
Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the Lord, the son born to you will die.”
15 After Nathan had gone home, the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. 16 David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackcloth on the ground. 17 The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.
18 On the seventh day the child died. David’s attendants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they thought, “While the child was still living, he wouldn’t listen to us when we spoke to him. How can we now tell him the child is dead? He may do something desperate.”
19 David noticed that his attendants were whispering among themselves, and he realized the child was dead. “Is the child dead?” he asked.
“Yes,” they replied, “he is dead.”
20 Then David got up from the ground. After he had washed, put on lotions and changed his clothes,he went into the house of the Lord and worshiped. Then he went to his own house, and at his request they served him food, and he ate.
21 His attendants asked him, “Why are you acting this way? While the child was alive, you fasted and wept, but now that the child is dead, you get up and eat!”
22 He answered, “While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept. I thought, ‘Who knows? The Lordmay be gracious to me and let the child live.’ 23 But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.”


Matthew 13:17
For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.

Luke 7:48Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

the Holy Spiri helps us to keep God laws not just the ten comandments but when we lean on our own understanding then grace comes in because we are trying to keep them this does not give us the right to not try to keep them as some teach


Do you think we will be keepingg laws in Gods kingdom

 

[2Thewaters]

there are thousands of commandments!
Everything Jesus told us to do!
just read and do thw whole Bible that he told us to do, help the poor tithe, give honor to God praise God quench not the spirit
hundreds of blessed commanments, but be sure to keep the 10 commandments too by love and grace.

 

[Josh321]

So long you took to find this verse hmmm lets see what are the ordinaces there ?

Are they the ten commandments ?


Hmmm lets see does fulfill mean done away also in Matthew

Matthew 3

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


Thought provoking isnt it because man say the word fufilled means to done way only yet hmmm i wonder if baptism is done away also

this is talking about something completely different than what we are discussing and i took long to reply because i have things to do.. and i'm not gonna put alot of effort into this because people don't want to listen anyways

 

[4enlightment]

the Holy Spiri helps us to keep God laws not just the ten comandments but when we lean on our own understanding then grace comes in because we are trying to keep them this does not give us the right to not try to keep them as some teach


Do you think we will be keepingg laws in Gods kingdom

The Redeem doesn't need to be redeem.

Matthew 22:30At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like theangels in heaven.

Mark 2:17On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”